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chapracer65Participant
I would love to have a one off race with this cars. My preference would be to run it later in the year when we could all participate.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantWell said, Marty. That catalog was indispensable and Kovaleski was a real character at the track.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantRandy
The Shelby Mustangs were 1965 cars. I think Falcons may have run but I don’t know of any 1/32 sources.
chapracer65ParticipantI met Bernard back in the pre-internet days, late 80’s, early 90’s, at collector shows. At the time, he just had a handful of slot cars. We visited his warehouse/home back then to see his then-current museum quality collection of televisions. He had warehouse shelving 10 or 12 feet tall, with hundreds of televisions, from experimental German televisions from the 30’s to all manner of furniture televisions from the 50’s and later, and lots of space-age televisions. There were more styles and types than I ever knew existed. He also had a couple of Messerschmidt micro cars. Soon after we visited, he sold all his televisions and began collecting slot cars, building the fabulous collection shown. He seemed to be a regular guy with a regular job, but was the most thorough collector I had come across.
chapracer65ParticipantI have updated the 2021 Trophy Series rules page, with additions and deletions. The Cheetah will be allowed. Wheel track will not be an issue, being limited by the body width; the same goes for rear tire width. Normally, for 1/1 cars, wheel track is measured by wheel center to wheel center, but, generally, for slot cars, we have defined it as outside tire width to outside tire width.
chapracer65ParticipantOkay, so it likes like at least Q1 and H1 will be proxy series, so this will likely mean series where we don’t mind someone else driving our car. For new series, we will (hopefully) be able to drive our own cars. For Q1, Group C should fit the bill, but we will need another “old” series for H1, and possibly, Q2
Given that, and input so far for proposed series, our schedule might look something like this:
Q1 Slot.it Group C
Q2 Group 5?? RevoSlot?? BRM Group C 1/24??
H1 BRM Group C 1/24?? Group 5?? RevoSlot??
Q3 NSR Porsche 908–both tracks??
Q4 Tourist Trophy?? BRM Mini Cars 1/24?? RevoSlot?? NSR GT3?? BRM TransAM??
Rally series?? NSR Formula Cars??
H1 NSR Formula Cars?? BRM Mini Cars 1/24?? RevoSlot?? NSR GT3?? BRM Trans AM?? Rally series??
As you can see, the Q2 and H1 options are more limited and I think we need to decide those two series first, then see how we will fill out the year. Once we decide these two series (and Q1 Group C), that will cover the first six months of the year. That would give us time if we need to change any of the series for the second half of the year.
Also, as Marty posted some pictures of the Policar F1 on the NSR Formula 86/89 forum, I would say that, for now, I am much more in favor of the NSR F1. Several of us already have cars. I especially like the generic design of the NSR, which lends it to a greater range of liveries, including 80’s and 90’s Indy cars. The Policar is a more accurate modern F1 car, but that gives narrower options. There also looks to be a lot of parts that could break off, and the double rear axle gearing is an unknown.
I will be sending out an email tomorrow as a reminder for the Annual Zoom Meeting this coming Saturday, after the Houston proxy race.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantAbout the rear tires of the NSR Formula cars, I don’t see a problem with the stock assembly. There seems to be plenty of clearance out of the box, although I have not trued them yet. There is much more clearance than with the Thunderslot cars. Unless the tire formula has changed, there is a lot of history with the NSR Supergrip tires; we have used them in the past, as well as the softer Ultragrip tires.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantI am really getting excited about the NSR F1 series for next year, although nothing has definitely been decided. I am really an open-wheel guy and I love having the opportunity to build some open-wheel cars. I already have several liveries in mind……
chapracer65ParticipantEric
Good to hear from you. I fully understand you aversion to proxy racing; I suppose it’s like kissing your sister. I am really looking forward to the time when we can all get back together at HQ.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantMy preference would be to use the stock supergrip tires. I like having the Goodyear Eagle sidewalls, for more realism. It would also save members from having to buy more parts, including inserts.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantAlthough nothing is definite, it would seem that we have at least two races series for next year set: Group C as usual and NSR F1. There has been a lot of interest in the NSR Formula cars; six members have ordered or bought cars so far. I think we could pre-select at least these two series, leaving four choices to be made.
There has also been good interest in finishing the NSR Porsche 908 series that we started last year. This series would be run on both the main track and the rally track.
Other series mentioned, either in the Forum or to me, by three or more people include:
· BRM 1/24 Group C scheduled for last year.
· Group 5/Recer Sideways
· Tourist Trophy (could have rule on track width or overscale cars)
Series mentioned by two or more people:
· BRM Mini 1/24
· RevoSlot GT1
· Thunderslot
Series mentioned by one person:
· Spec BMW E30
· Spec Slot.it GT40
· BRM 1/24 T/A
· Targa Florio Rally Track
· Group B Rally Track
· T/A—Gumball
The sampling of comments for proposed series is fairly small. It would be very useful to have comments from more members. I would like to pre-select at least two series with strong enough interest before the annual meeting , leaving a smaller number of series to discuss during the meeting.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantThe BRM Mini 1/24 cars come with a vast array of options, and I do not know where to get all the info online. Parts catalogs come with the purchase of a car, and I am posting some of the info below. Some cars come with negative camber front wheels, some come with negative camber rear wheels, some have straight front axles, some have independent front axles, some are ball bearings, some are not. The Alfa has independent front negative camber wheels. The parts catalogs come with listings of all available parts; I can list those if desired.
chapracer65ParticipantI wanted to add a couple of comments about possible series. One is that I think we should take a break from running Thunderslot. That has been one of my favorite series and the cars have been very fast right out of the box, but I think we should run other series this year.
As I said in my above post, I had forgotten about the BRM mini 1/24 cars. There are a lot of models and liveries available and these cars should be a lot of fun to drive. They are a great size and have an attractive (to me anyway) chunky appearance.
I am going to leave my Alfa at HQ for everyone to look at and try out on the track, keeping in mind that it is right out of the box and I have done nothing to it.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantAt the Zoom meeting today, Marc, John, and I discussed race classes for next year. It would seem that the way we are going we will be doing proxy races for a while. We thought starting with Group C as usual would be a good idea.
The NSR Formula 1 racers look like a good prospect. The one David had drove well and the front end looks fairly sturdy. The modern Policar Formula 1 is an unknown and we would need to test it out to try it.
The NSR Porsche 908 was also discussed; we only got to run one race with it last year. It would be a good candidate to run on both tracks to give some variety.
We talked about the variety of cars that the Tourist Trophy produced and thought it would be a fun builder series, perhaps with car track limits or some way to reduce the dominance of the Racer 250LM.
A Group 5 Racer Sideways series was brought up, as well as a Slot.it GT40 series.
I had forgotten about the BRM/TTS small 1/24 cars. My Alfa is a great looking car and the smaller size of these metal chassis cars should make good running cars.
I also like the BRM 1/24 Trans Am cars.
Also requiring some thought would be the order in which we would run any proposed series, considering that, at least to start the year, we would continue with proxy races, so for early series choices, it might be good to consider classes in which we would not mind some one else driving our cars. For a car that we would really want to drive ourselves, later in the year would be better.
Russell
chapracer65ParticipantMark
Thanks for the info. It is very helpful, especially with new cars. So David put some weight outboard on the chassis; now that would increase the roll resistance at that point, like a heavier anti-roll bar. It’s the difference when you are spinning in an office chair whether you extend your arms and legs or pull into a ball. And so you could further tune the suspension by changing the roll resistance front to rear…..
Russell
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