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    • February 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM #14780
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      This is the head thread of the series discussion for 2020 – Slot.IT DTM

    • February 12, 2020 at 12:51 AM #14793
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      All,

      I have spent some time looking deeper into the differences between the older Alfa, the newer Alfa and the Opel and Mercedes.  I have a list of the cars, along with all the information about them.  Please use this information when selecting a car to run in the series.

      I am still not opposed to having all A group racers run the Alfa and the B group racers the Opel.  We will have to see how they compare before we make a final decision. 

      Attachments:
      1. Car-Comparisons.xlsx
    • February 12, 2020 at 10:19 AM #14795
      Avatar photoRadial TA
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      Is the Mercedes just plain noncompetitive according to the dimensions and  and background information.  You are saving me from going down a rabbit hole if that is true.  My potential MB purchase is sentimental based on my Dad’s 3 MB’s, but I am trying to be more competitive from the purchase onward.

    • February 12, 2020 at 4:13 PM #14796
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      Randy,

      I have no idea if the Mercedes is competitive.  Part of every series, especially new ones, is the discovery of what does and does not work easily.  The best way to determine if the Mercedes is competitive is to buy one and set it up.  Setting up a car is 98% of the performance.  Some cars are competitive right out of the box while others require some work to get to the same level.  Cars that some have said were uncompetitive others have been able to get them to work.  This is the only new series and I am looking forward to running it just because I find it fun and enjoyable to set up a new car and working to get the most out of it.  Good luck with your Mercedes.  Can’t wait to see it running on the track.

    • February 14, 2020 at 4:01 PM #14807
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      Marty, do you have the raw XLS file? The image you posted obviously does not include the Merc. Are there other rows and columns also not visible? Just curious … el Araña

    • February 17, 2020 at 10:57 AM #14816
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    • February 17, 2020 at 10:58 AM #14817
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      Mark,

      I posted the information again with the Mercedes info.  When I used the Snipping tool I accidentally left off the Mercedes models.

    • February 19, 2020 at 12:47 PM #14824
      Avatar photoRadial TA
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      I’m going to wait out the Mercedes silver availability and if it is not available I ‘ll go Opel.

    • February 25, 2020 at 11:13 PM #14828
      Avatar photoRadial TA
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      Well I decided not to wait for a MB listed as Q3 availability and di not feel moved by the opel so I just ordered the Bosch Alfa.

    • February 26, 2020 at 8:19 PM #14829
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      The Bosch Alfa is the 1996 version of the Alfa.  I can’t wait to see it run.

    • April 11, 2020 at 4:34 PM #14956
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      SLOT IT 2020 Motors
      MX16 = white endbell replacement for the orange (21.5k) and dark-orange (23k) motors
      2017 used the same model/part#.
      New models have a tatoo or engraving indicating 23k or 21k (MX15) speed.
      (NOTE NSR motors have included a fairly robust tatoo under the foil for years. resistant to oils and Vodoo juice.)
      Slot.IT seems to have stopped offering a ‘two ended’ motor.

      Common specs: 23k RPM, 170g torque @12v, about 5g more torque than the older light-orange 21.5 models.
      MX16 = Endbell drive, so for all small-can Inline applications with modern pods.
      %In the catalog it appears as a Double-ended motor but on retailer’s sites it appears to only have a long shaft on the endbell side%
      MX16-M = Can drive, for many sidewinder applications.  Bell drive pods are still available.

      Black Endbell: MX15
      This is the OEM motor in the DTM cars.  21k RPM, 150g torque @12v
      Double-ended (long shaft on both can and end-bell)
      Same specs and model# as 2017 catalog.

      MX17 = 29k 150g tq ~ replaces the old Red end-bell (now white).

      25k Yellow end-bell seems to only be available as NOS from retailers.  Never seemed as reliable as the NSR 25k anyhow.

      ** Long-can/Boxer motors have not changed.

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