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October 27, 2021 at 11:02 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17106
Fair enough. Just thinking out loud.
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-Warren ZevonOctober 27, 2021 at 8:50 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17104[postquote quote=17087]
Know anyone with an Elegoo Saturn? My printer is not quite big enough for 1/32 bodies, unless I print them almost vertical, which can lead to problems.
for 10 Euro, I’m considering giving it a try. Gotta have a Saab!
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-Warren ZevonOctober 27, 2021 at 8:38 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17103Just thinking. Any practical reason not make brass chassis legal?
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-Warren ZevonOctober 26, 2021 at 9:23 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17097Another eligible car will soon be available from George Turner Models.
Sumbeam Alpine resin kit
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-Warren ZevonOctober 22, 2021 at 1:31 PM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17084[postquote quote=17080]
Marty,
40 (herald width) is %71.942 of 55.6.(911 width)
Since width at rear wheels seemed to be the main attribute being pursued, I used relative width to arrive at a factor to apply to time. I thought it would be a good way to get people to entertain cars other than the lowest/widest to get a more varied field.Endurance races, like Sebring, and LE Mans use fuel consumption as a factor in their Index of performance, but that really isn’t applicable here. Still it did yield some interesting results at times;
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-Warren ZevonOctober 22, 2021 at 9:01 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17079Index of performance:
Handicapping formula:
Measure width across back wheels of all entrants
Compare entrants’ width against widest (Benchmark) entry
arrive at index factor of entry X against widest entry by dividing entrant x with by benchmark.
That index factor is applied to entry X’s time.For example:
John’s 911 is 55.6mm across the back tires. Being the widest competitor this is the BENCHMARK dimension for this race (stage)
My Triumph Herald is 40mm across back tiresDivide Triumph width by Porsche width for INDEX Factor.
Index factor in this case is .71942Both make 40 laps or rally track
911 completes 40 laps in 360 seconds
Herald completes 40 laps in 430 seconds
Handicap is 430 X ..71942
Handicapped time is 309.35 sec.
I think in the interest of a varied grid, the Index of performance will be weighted equally to overall performance points-wise So, conceivably one could winn overall, AND Index of performance for double points!
Can anyone point me towards the method used to score the Targa Florio rally earlier this year ?For the second time in my life I wish I knew how to use a spreadsheet.
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-Warren ZevonOctober 20, 2021 at 12:18 PM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17067In the interest of a varied grid I am looking into a few possibilities. Need to have at least one french car, right? So I found this SCX Renault. And going more scratchbuilt-ish a ’61 corvair, if I can make a silk purse out of this sow’s ear.
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-Warren ZevonOctober 20, 2021 at 12:11 PM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17066I would like to, as much as I can, encourage variety, and scratch building/kitbashing in this series. To that end, I think an Index of Performance trophy is in order (formula to be determined, but most likely based on overall width at axle factored against race times) and a meaningful number of points for the concours.
Entering as multiple team members seems like a fine idea, but should probably set a maximum number of cars one person can run.
I don’t want tires to become a source of consternation and stress, so I am leaning toward tire/wheel choice being fairly open, as long as they adhere to the look of the prototype car racing in the day. This is a scale event, after all.
If I am able to contact the guys at Slot Car Corner, and can secure a bag full of Predator motors, we will go spec, but if not, will need another approach. 18k and under, perhaps.
Since I have never been a series manager before I ask for your guidance and patience in this.
-Marc (Datto)
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-Warren ZevonOctober 13, 2021 at 10:56 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17011September 17, 2021 at 11:34 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #16933[postquote quote=16932]
Pendle’s has “10 inch” aluminum wheels, and tires to go with. (I think they are rubber rather than Urethane)
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-Warren ZevonSorry, I did not know about this thread. Not sure if I should cross-post proposed Monte here or not
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-Warren ZevonSeptember 10, 2021 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #16916O think there is (or was an Ocar Saab 96 shell. Car shells need a lot of work, they tend to be thick and heavy, I hear.
The reason I was thinking spec Predator motor was among other things, approaching slow car corner about being a sponsor for the series.
Will have to re-thing ground clearance. Just measured my TR+6. (Did not run the Monte, but some Spitfire fastbacks did.) Anyway, with the small wheels, the motor can is less than 3/32 from the set-up block surface. Would like to avoid slammed cars that don’t look right for the period.
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-Warren ZevonSeptember 9, 2021 at 12:17 PM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #16911Marty, the beautiful 904 also ran the Monte

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Well, I’m having fun with it anyway. No terrible kinks, that I have found, but there is a “bump” on the green lane at the table join. Can probably shave it down. Very different character when you switch directions.
Great looking rocks Marc ????
Thanks Mark. Lots of reference around here, living at the bottom of the Niobrara sea. 😉
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-Warren ZevonTrack is operational, timing system installed. The Paper MAche’ shell is almost complete. Need to work in the foam rock work, and I want to get that part mostly painted before sticking down.
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