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The case has been modified to hold the cars securely and hold some spare parts for these cars.
Looking forward to giving these cars their first test on the track.
porsche917ModeratorRandy – that is one very good looking car. It will be interesting to see how quick those Elva’s are.
porsche917ModeratorPosted for John-Lotus Jr.
Just received the red Elva today. The Elva has a noticeably lower frontal area and cockpit. McLaren has more rear spoiler. Rear track: Elva (stock tires, full width) 2.425 inches, McLaren (slicks) 2.5 inches. Slight nod to the McLaren there. Wheelbase looks the same at 2.87 inches. Elva gets style points for the Chevrolet valve covers (very cool!) If anyone has a red Elva already and intends to race it, I will change the number. The McLaren is my weapon of choice unless the Elva proves otherwise.
Lotus Jr.porsche917ModeratorRandy – Unfortunately you will not be able to run a 3D chassis with the March body. Having said that, I do like your idea. You will have to stick to a Slot.it Group C car for the series.
The Netflix piece on Randy Lanier was crazy. It was almost comical. His slide into drug smuggling appeared much less deliberate than Bill and Don Whittington.
Marty
porsche917ModeratorWalt – I also wanted to mention that in addition to our tried and true road track we added another track – a smaller one lane, two loop rally track that is great fun to run. We will be running two different series on this track in 2022.
Marty
porsche917ModeratorWalt,
Great to hear from you.
I know there are many clubs that move around from track to track at members’ houses. It’s more challenging here because so few people have a basement and running on a track in a garage in the summer heat presents its own challenges and having a spare room big enough for a track and multiple people can prove challenging. Having said that, we are totally open to new experiences and are not opposed to running on a different track. It would be great if you could come and present your idea to the group. I can assure you the group would be open to hearing your idea.
We are done running for the year and will start back up on the 8th of January. That would be the first opportunity to introduce the idea to the group. It’s also the first race of the 2022 season – Slot.it Group C. You should come and run with us. We have spare cars and controllers so don’t worry if you don’t have something to run.
Looking forward to meeting you.
Marty
porsche917ModeratorRandy – Thanks for sharing the link to the great video. I had not seen it before and loved it.
porsche917ModeratorAll,
Here are some additional ideas for the race series we can run in the second half of the year.
Possible H2 Series
Main Track
BRM mini 1/24 scale Group 2 Cars – spec class
Alfa
Ford
Opel
BRM 1/24 Trans Am – Not easy to find if you don’t already have one
Ford Mustang
Chevy Camaro
RevoSlot GT1 – spec class
Porsche GT1
Toyota GT1
Mercedes CLK GT1
McLaren GTR
Slot.it DTM – spec class
Mercedes
Opel
Alfa
Scalextric BMW E30 – spec class
PCR Chassis available for the Scalextric version
CanAm – ’70-’73 – open class
Slot.it McLaren
NSR Porsche 917K
Group 5 – open class
Group 5 Racer/Sideways – spec class
GT3 – open class
Scaleauto
Slot.it
NSR
NSR GT3 – spec class
Porsche GT3
Mercedes
Audi
Corvette
Aston Martin
BMW Z4
NSR Mosler – spec class
Carrera BMW M1 – spec class
Policar Classic F1 – spec class
Lotus
March
Ferrari
Policar Modern F1 – spec class
Fly Trucks – spec class
BRM Group C – spec class
Rally Track
Group B Rally – open class
Monte Carlo ’72-’82 – open class
Lancia Stratos
Audi Quattro
Renault R5 Turbo
Ford Escort
Fiat 131
Porsche 911
Porsche 924
BMW E30
Ferrari 308GTB
NSR Fiat 500 – spec class
Scalextric Ford Escort – spec class or open class
November 23, 2021 at 10:29 AM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17231porsche917ModeratorRandy,
I can’t wait to see your cars. The Mustang sounds very cool in the Ecurie livery.
I still think the 914 will be the quickest but I like the mix of other cars.
Marty
porsche917ModeratorAll – Here are the proposed rules for Slot.it Group C. Please review and post any comments you have.
Slot.It Group C Models Allowed
Jaguar XJR6, XJR9, XJR10, XJR11, XJR12
Lancia LC2/84, LC2/85
Mazda 787B
Nissan R89C, R90V, R91VP
Porsche 956, 962, 962 IMSA
Sauber C9 Mercedes
Toyota 86C, 88C, JTK 63CBody
The body cannot be modified in any way.
The stock plastic cockpits and glass are mandatory
Lexan cockpits or glass is prohibited.
Body must start every heat with radiators, windows, and wings in their correct location. If any of these items fall off during a heat they must be repaired before the next heat starts.
Antennas, mirrors, wipers, and tow hooks are not required and do not have to be replaced if they come off.
White kits allowed but must be painted, or decaled uniquely, with at least one coat of paint. At least two numbers must be visible.
Body screws open choice. These can be taped to prevent loss. Any car that loses a screw and causes an issue with a competitor’s car will have a 5 lap penalty applied.Chassis
No modifications to chassis are allowed unless otherwise specified.
Chassis must be Slot.It that is intended for the body. This can be the stock version or an EVO or EVO6.
Motor pod cut-outs can be removed.
Flashing on chassis may be removed to allow better floating of the body. The gap between the chassis and the body cannot be greater than the thickness of a credit card.
Front axle lower adjustment caps are optional.
Modification to the upper axle loops is prohibited.
Front axle height adjusting grub screws are open choice.
Magnets of any type are prohibited.
Ballast is allowed but must be above the chassis pan. A 5-lap penalty will be imposed if ballast falls onto track and causes an issue with a competitor’s car.Guide
Slot.It guides are mandatory. Slot.it SICH-07 deep wood screw guide highly recommended.
Pick-up braids are open choice.
Guide spacers are open choiceSet Up
Wheel/tire must not be visible outside wheel-well/fender when viewed from above.
Motor
Slot.It V12/4 23K motors are mandatory. The older version of this motor has a dark orange end while the newer motors have a white end.
The small circuit board on top of the motor can be removed.
Any modifications to the motor are strictly prohibited.
Lead wires and lead wire guide terminals are open choice.Motor Pod
Slot.It inline motor orientation mandatory.
The motor pod is prohibited from protruding below the chassis.
Flashing may be removed from motor pod to allow better float. Excessive removal of material determined by scrutineer.
Motor can be held in place with screws. Screws are open choice.
Motors cannot be held in with tape or glue.
Slot.It stop/axle collars are allowed.
Spacers/washers are open choice.
Slot.it CH14 or CH56b spherical bushings mandatory.
Pod screws are open choice.
Tape may be used to prevent the pod screws from falling out.
Slot.It magnetic suspension kits are allowed.Gears
Slot.It in-line crown gears and pinions mandatory.
Gear ratio is open.
Modifications to crown gears or pinions are prohibited.Wheels
Slot.it wheels are mandatory.
Rear wheels –
Diameter – Only 15.8mm or 16.5mm
Width – Only 8.2mm or 10.2mm
Material – Aluminum or magnesium
Front wheels – only 15.8mm wheels from any material are allowed.
Diameter – Only 15.8mm
Width – Only 8.2mm
Material – Plastic, aluminum, or magnesium
Slot.it Group C wheel inserts are mandatory.
Inserts may be interchanged from different Slot.it Group C models.
Any modifications to the wheels are prohibited.Axles
Only Slot.It axles are allowed.
Any modifications to axles are prohibited.
Slot.It independent front axle kit is allowed.Tires
Only Slot.It tires are allowed.
Tires may be glued to the wheels, trued and have their edges rounded.
Traction compounds are prohibited.
Varnishing the front tires to make them slick is prohibited.
Zero-Grip (front) and F30 (rear) tires highly recommended.Track Power: 12.0 volts
If it is not mentioned it is not legal. These rules were written to create a fair event and not for racers to look for loopholes.
porsche917ModeratorRandy – The final decision on the track power has not been made but it’s safe to say that I want to have as many people compete as possible. This in and of itself means the power setting has to work for everyone.
Any of the newer Slot.it cars are not any better than the cars we have been running. The only thing you might find different is a lighter interior or one that has less interference with the chassis. Other than that, the cars currently available are no quicker than what we have been running.
I would love to help you get your car and controller set up for the increased voltage. I would suggest changes to the crown gear before you mess with the pinion. A one tooth change to a crown gear has a significantly smaller impact to the gear ratio than a one tooth change to a pinion.
It should not be that much harder to run than it is currently.
November 9, 2021 at 2:14 PM in reply to: Proposed 2022 Race Series – Monte Carlo Rally ’61-’71 Proposed builder’s series for rally track #17201porsche917ModeratorI found some front lights at Pendleslot made by PCS as well as TeamSlot. The pictures show the TeamSlot version where the lights are in a bonnet/grill mounted version and the PCS loose mounted versions are available in pairs.
porsche917ModeratorThe History of Slot.it Group C Speed
It was twelve years ago that the Austin Slot Car Club ran its first series – the first Slot.it Group C series. It’s not hard to understand why the club would choose these cars to run for its first-ever series – the cars were stunningly beautiful, easy to set up, loads of available Slot.it performance parts, and the cars were inexpensive. When set up well these cars were fun to drive and were very evenly matched making the races very exciting to watch and run.
In the twelve years since we first ran the Slot.it Group C race series there have been improvements to the cars from Slot.it – adjustable front axles, stiffer chassis, lighter drive cockpits, and a quicker 23K motor. All of these changes have increased the performance of the cars and made them more enjoyable to run.
Throughout all of the changes made by Slot.it the club has continued to run the series at the same 11 volts it did at the first race twelve years ago. Running at 11 volts has worked well but almost all of the current racers are running the lowest possible gear with a 9 tooth pinion and a 23 tooth crown gear. With almost everyone running the same 9×23 gearing the series becomes more about motor strength than car set-up and driving skills. It’s true that driving skills play a big role in any race but even the best driver cannot overcome a down on power motor. The differences in motor power are especially noticeable on a track like ours where the straight is such a large part of the circuit.
In light of this, the Slot.it Group C series starting January 2022 will be run at a higher track voltage. The final voltage has not yet been decided but current thinking has it somewhere between 12 and 13 volts. The 12-volt setting did not seem to be too big of a change and 13 volts seemed like it could be too much. There will be lots of testing taking place in November so that by December the final voltage number will be announced.
How does the change in voltage affect how my car is set up?
· You will have to reevaluate the gearing you are running. If you are currently running a 9×23 gear you might have to move the crown gear up to a 24 or 25.
· You can add more weight to your car without the same performance penalty you would have had at 11 volts.
· You will need to glue your rear tires to the wheels. If you have been able to get by without gluing your rear tires to the wheel you will have to now.
· If you choose to run the same 9×23 gearing you will more than likely not be able to run at full throttle on the back straight. The higher voltage with 9×23 gearing will require better throttle control.
· You will need to adjust both the sensitivity and brakes on your DiFalco controller.
porsche917ModeratorMark,
Thanks for sharing your story. Its good to hear about other forms of slot car racing.
porsche917ModeratorWOW! That is a whole other level. I like what you are working on. I think you and Russell are the masters at that type of work. I am always impressed with the quality of work you both create. Impressive.
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