Tagged: Monte Carlo builders series
January 27, 2022 at 9:40 AM #17492
Please put all information regarding your Monte Carlo Rally series car builds on this forum. The more information you can share the better for everyone.
January 27, 2022 at 4:32 PM #17498
Here is one of the cars I will be running in the Monte Carlo rally series.
To build this epic rally car that finished 4th overall in the 1971 Monte Carlo rally I am using a model kit that is only available in Japan. I was able to find the kit on eBay, go figure.
For the chassis, I ended up using an Olifer 3D chassis that was originally made for a Fly Alfa Romeo TZ2. The wheelbase was very close and there was plenty of room for the guide. My next step will be to mount some body posts inside the body that line up with the chassis.
For the body posts, I went to Slot Car Corner and ordered some CG Slots 3D printed body posts that are made for conversions just like this.
To make sure these posts stay in place I used some quick setting JB Weld. The JB Weld did a great job and the posts look very secure. Plus, the cars will not be going that fast on the rally track so there shouldn’t be any concerns about one of them coming loose.
Here are some pics of the car with the chassis mounted. The chassis isn’t perfectly centered in the body but it’s close enough to work.
The car still needs the front air dam removed to make it look like the rally 240Z and less of an IMSA Datsun 240Z.
This has been a fun and interesting project. I will post more updates as the car comes together.
I can’t wait to see what the other competitors are building.
January 28, 2022 at 2:26 PM #17501DattoParticipant
Here is one of the cars I plan to run, a 1961 Corvair
I have a running car, or I had, anyway. The 3D printing resin I have ben using takes beautiful detail, but is brittle. I reinforced the horizontal surfaces (Front trunk lid, roof and rear deck but a fall to the floor found the weakness.
I started out trying to make vac-form tool for glazing with clay, but decided to do it in the ‘puter
January 29, 2022 at 9:34 AM #17506
I believe the 1961 Corvair fits under Ralph Nader’s statement of “Unsafe at any Speed”. 🙂
February 2, 2022 at 4:23 PM #17508
That Corvair looks like my 1967 Monza after I t-boned a 1964 Buick Electra four door at about 15 MPH on my part and 30 on his part. It showed up 6 months later repaired!! on a chevy used car lot.
February 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM #17509
Here is the Ecurie Ford France 1967 Mustang I will be entering. I’m thinking of starting race 1 clean and ending up race 6 like this picture. This is a Pioneer undecorated kit before priming. Note the nice chrome window trim.
The wheels and tires are for the narrow tire class. Paul Gage Urethane 8mm and CBDesign Classic Steel 15x 7. The chassis and drive train will likely be stock Pioneer. I found Ecurie Ford France decals for their GT40 racer with same stripes and sponsor. I also found Monte Carlo decals, but the years are later.
February 6, 2022 at 4:57 PM #17510BellatorKeymaster
I spent a pleasant part of today unboxing all of my slot cars. I haven’t seen these guys for almost 8 years! Among four boxes, including an almost full book-box of historic F1’s and a half-dozen classic Slot.it Group 1 and Le Mans GT 40s (NIB, no less!) I found nine rally cars that ran in the decade selected for the series. Five of which are even in the correct livery! The funny thing is; I find myself “jonesing” for either a BMW 1800 or Volvo P1800 to actually run! This really is a sickness.
February 8, 2022 at 8:24 PM #17513
MARTY – great looking Z; I had some friends (a couple) who were 240 and 260 Zealots (the only reason they owned a pickup was to haul Z parts home!) What’s interesting to see at some car shows is where a customizer (usually British for some reason), will shoe-horn a 283 ford or early-60s small black chevy into a 260.
MARC – great build, but looking forward to your 2nd edition with maybe a less brittle resin compound.
RANDY – looks great, everyone’s fantasy car, for who ever saw one in the 1960s (I had a 66 two-tone Falcon that was the same body, trim, interior and drive-train, only with different tail-lights and grill)
BRIAN – what a collection. I hope you can get a few to work.
February 14, 2022 at 9:23 AM #17515
Brian, at least get some narrow urethanes from SCC for the Citroen DS and bring for the initial run. No one is likely to have one and they were a real competitor. My Scalextric Mini Cooper is a modern release of the car you have, but without the roof rack and tires. I have narrow wheels from Pendle and SCC urethane tires. I also have a wide tire SRC Porsche 914/6 that would have competed against your Alpine 110 in 1971.
This event is bringing out the creative side of our usual Spec Class minds. Since the track only allows one car on the layout at a time, we are allowed to enter and run more than one car. I hope one of my cars is competitive, but all three are fun to drive. They have their magnets which makes them fun on the big track!!
February 14, 2022 at 11:49 AM #17516DattoParticipant
It’s a Saab, so I figured go weird, or go home. Printed 16 body is reinforced with fiberglass, and pictures is first prototype of a FWD angle winder chassis. I wonder how, or if it will go!
February 23, 2022 at 3:12 PM #17550
The Ecurie FORD France body has been treated to blue liquid mask on the lights and a coat of gray primer about the same color as the plastic body. ( the body panels on both ends lined up with pegs that also required the clear and red plastic light pieces, thus the blue liquid mask;() The primer clearly revealed that the Trans Am gas filler on the boot lid is not yet smooth so that will get more sanding. The car got its black bonnet this week. My skill was rated mediocre with a run on first attempt. I made a wet/dry sanding exercise with fine 1200 grit and a second spray. The second attempt still shows a little of the first sag, but that will disappear under the “alpine dust” as the race goes on. The pictures of the pristine real car show this black as shiny when I would have chosen matte black. I will spray the car after decals are applied with gloss clear.
Tamiya 10 mm masking tape.
The earlier picture showed chrome “classic steel” wheels from CB Design Wheels, 15×7, and Paul Gage tires in urethane 40 shore rear, and 20 shore front. The real car did not use American Mags like the Pioneer kit supplied. It also appears to have relatively narrow tires, but probably snow tire treads. Out track is smooth, so I opted for slicks.
(I love my drugstore Porsche, and the snap shot of my grandparent’s 50th anniversary.)
February 25, 2022 at 1:08 PM #17554
Looking good Randy. Can’t wait to see it running. I ran a Pioneer Mustang in our first Trans Am series years ago. I loved the car.
I would try to find some zero grip tires for the front or at least coat them in nail polish to they don’t slow your car up in the turns.
February 25, 2022 at 8:22 PM #17555
I miss typed the tire selection. Shore 40 on front and shore 20 on rear. I would like to have snow tires like the car came with from Scalextric, but those stock tires are soft, so not ready for the front without nail polish. I may resort to nail polish and stock tires with nail polish on front. I have not run the nail polish fronts before. It has been a problem to find aluminum wheels and urethane or rubber tires for the narrow tire class Mustang and Austin Mini Cooper. I wanted something to glue on and true nicely.
My second thought was maybe the long Mustang will need harder than 20 shore rears to easily drift the sharp corners. The tire issue is big for me and I beg the micro circuits to operate our rally track again.
March 22, 2022 at 12:55 PM #17616
Just a reminder of various Wheel and Tire options.
April 1, 2022 at 4:56 PM #17658chapracer65Participant
What is the length the guides must be shortened to in order to make it around the tight corners? I remember this being mentioned in a post somewhere, but I have been unable to find it.
April 5, 2022 at 3:54 AM #17660
17 to 17.5MM blade length (if trimming a Slot.IT or other guide).
This will prevent a hang-up and de-slot in the finger in the valley.
Use the NSR Rally guides as a baseline reference (if you have any).
April 5, 2022 at 3:57 AM #17661
Marc – reminds me of a SAAB one of my more “crunchy” high-school teachers owned.
Looks cool as a slot car – good luck!
April 10, 2022 at 8:27 AM #17678
I think the first stage of the Monte Carlo Rally April 9 was mor fun than a barrel of monkeys. The variety of cars including maybe the first two Saabs, a Mini Cooper Classic and a Porsche 904 certainly broke the mold. The conversions of factory cars with Monte Carlo liveries was outstanding. the second race is going to see some modifications, but still interesting.
April 12, 2022 at 11:12 AM #17683
This was an amazing first round of the series. The second round should be very interesting as everyone now knows what the competition looks like. I can’t wait to see Marc’s story and pictures.
April 16, 2022 at 8:31 PM #17699
Below are some pictures of the almost finished Ecurie <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>Ford</span> France Mustang GT 390. It ran well with a full load of lead with the power set at about 9 volts so that I could use the full sweep of my controller trigger. At the point the pictures were taken it did not have it’s French license plates (humorous comment coming) because the amount of lead ballast required an EPA permit. After the first race (stage of the rally) the car looks a little dirty as part of the weathering I am doing as the six stages are run. Pictures of the car will follow later.
The Chassis and mechanical parts are stock Pioneer except for CBDesign Steelie wheels and 6 or 7 mm urethane tires. I need the lack of grip to power the long chassis around the tight curves, and the Pioneer drive train has plenty of power for that.
The Scalextric Classic Mini Cooper ran well with a full load of “luggage” too. The urethanes were good.
That makes two cars that drew skeptics but performed well. Results have not been posted and I did not take a picture of the computer screen results. At one point Bibendum, the Mustang, and Paddy, the Mini, were 2nd and 3rd overall.
May 19, 2022 at 2:04 PM #17797
Unfortunately Paddy the Mini Cooper was leaking coolant after the last race and it was not the radiator overflow tank or loose hose clamp. The leak was from the valve cover area and was a blown head gasket. The head got too hot and cracked with some damage to the valve guide on the rear exhaust valve. I have ordered a new motor from Slark Racing in England who supplied my acquaintance Tom Davies with his CARRARA MÉXICO Mini motor. Participation is race time decision if a new motor arrived this week.
May 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM #17798
This two class system of wide tires or narrow tires, bringing out the older rally cars, and the 3d chassis more modern cars, continues to be great spectator fun as well as driver excitement. Very close times in each stage so far. A matter of a few seconds which is amazing since cars are not on the track together to see the direct comparison. Thanks to the electronic wizards who got the timing working too. Tough sledding the first time running clockwise this last heat. More snow predicted too.
David is running the next rally with the nsr Abarth 500’s. He suggested using a coin toss before the start of each stage to set either clockwise or anticlockwise direction each time. Sounds good.
May 24, 2022 at 3:17 AM #17844
Randy – your are consistently one of the funniest, and most Informative of our members …
I dont think my new Cosworth 1000bhp 4-banger in my Escort can match your Stang but could be a competitor to the mini with the Stark engine – ROTFLMAO
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