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Randy and All – All of us will have time to work on our cars before they get shipped to Scale Auto Racing. Everyone can pick up their cars starting Saturday after the race. I need them back at Headquarters by the 30th so I can get them boxed up and shipped off. I will send out an email to all the participants to make sure everyone understands this.
Don’t hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions on setting up your car for the HSCRC track.
Things are looking good. I am enjoying watching the track progress. Thanks for sharing.
Marty
Russell – You are correct, there are two sets of rules. One was for the ASCC’s Q4 Slot It DTM series that we are not running and the other is for the Slot It DTM Proxy that we are running. The DTM proxy rules are attached to the first post on this thread and have not changed since they were posted. Those are the rules for this Proxy series.
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Will the cars be in Parc Ferme for the duration of the series; that is, the owners will not be allowed to work on them between races? – Cars will be in Parc Ferme during the race but can be worked on between the races, not the heats of a race. Only the series manager is allowed to work on the cars during a race.
Wings:
If a wing falls off during a heat it must be put back on the car before starting the next heat. This can be done using tape.
Clear enough. If my wing breaks during a race, please withdraw the car immediately. Make no attempt to repair/replace the wing. A broken wing means that race is over for the car. – Russell, your wing can be reattached to the car using tape before the next heat. There is no need to withdraw a car for something like this. I am attaching an example of a wing attachment that was done in another proxy with the car that finished second in the series. Not beautiful but required by the rules.
All,
Here are answers to some of your questions.
What are the details about Round-1? – I need more specifics to answer the question. The first race of the DTM proxy series will be this Saturday the 24th at 1pm at the clubs headquarters.
When will the cars be received from Houston? – I received them yesterday. I will be running them through tech today the 22nd.
How many cars are coming from Houston? – 5
What specs are they using regarding gears et al? – I don’t fully understand what you are asking. They are using Slot It in-line crown gears as per the rules. I don’t know what size they are using. I have told them we run 23t – 25t crown gears when we run Slot It cars on our track.Are they going to be tested (by Marty?) before the Round-1? – Yes, on my home track or at the headquarters if I have the time.
Will drivers have any time for test laps with each car? – A very limited amount of time with each car. That is the way a proxy works. Drivers are not allowed to adjust a car to suit their driving style. You drive the car you get.
Who are the drivers? I volunteer as either driver or Marshal. – As per earlier emails it will be Mark L., John B. and David C. with Marty and Steve working as marshals.
When is Ary truly coming back? – He is back
Does he have to quaratine since he is returning from Brazil? – Yes. He will not run the first round of the series.
When will tech inspection be for the ASCC cars? – Saturday, prior to the race. Starting at noon.
With some of the specs (wing reinforcement for one) will we have 5 minutes to fix it, or a more pragmatic time? Or could we be DQ on day one and have no time to correct the infraction? – I don’t understand what you are asking. The wing must be on the car for the start of the heat. You can reinforce the bottom of the wing but you cannot attach it to the side of the car.
So should we tune our cars for the HSARC track and race as configured on the ASCC track? or do we tune gears etc for the ASCC track and later modify before rounds start in Houston? – You can do whatever you want. Since we are allowing the cars to be reset for the Houston track I would set up my car for our track and then reconfigure it for the Houston track before we send the cars to them.
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What is the official Guide – CH10 or the normal CH07? is a CHO7 illegal? Seems CH07 is recommended by the documented rules. They are designed for Carerra slot depths, is the HSARC track shallow – less than 7mm deep? – You can run any Slot It guide you want. I would suggest a CH07 for our track and the CH10 or stock guide for the Houston track.Documented wings specs are: “parts damaged … Wings mandatory at the start of a heat... White kits allowed – but must be …” Or have the rules been updated somewhere with other details? – What is your question? Wings must be on the car when it starts the heat.
The rear wing cannot be attached to the body – unless you are running a Mercedes and it comes that way. You can use the tried and true trick of putting ShoeGoo under the wing and on the struts. I would allow some reinforcement of the struts just as long as they are on minimal and on the struts.
Marty
Randy – based on what they communicated to me the stock C1 tires – PT1228C1 – tires are the ones that work the best on their track.
Guides – You could use the stock guide if you would like to save $5 or be spendy and get the Slot It CH10 which is the same guide with a screw mount.
All,
Here is information on the best set up for your DTM car on the Houston track.
Gears – 26 or 27 crown on the stock 9t pinion.
Tires – Stock C1’s
Weight – helps, most are adding 5 -10g but in a variety of choice of placement.
Guide – Screw in universal pickup – CH10.Picture or no picture, its good to hear you were able to make it work. Can’t wait to see the Mercedes on the track.
Marty
Got it John. Thanks .
To the open wheel racing – there are NSR F1 cars and the soon to be released Policar modern F1 cars. I could see us running the NSR cars. They have been out for a while, parts are available and they come in enough colors and liveries to work for everyone. Spec Series
BRM Trans Am cars. These are basically overgrown Revoslot cars that are fun to drive and perform well. – Spec Series
BRM/TTS mini 1/24 scale cars – these include the Alfas, Ford Escorts, Mini’s, Opels and soon to have a Autobianchi A112 Abarth coming in the next few months. Spec Series
Scalextric or Fly BMW E30 touring car series with Shapeways 3D chassis – Semi-Spec Series
Rally Track – Targa 1969-1973 – Open Series
Rally Track – Group B unlimited. Any car in Group B from 1983-1986 with unlimited modifications. Open Series
The difference between Spec Series and Open Series is the amount of modifications that can be made to the car. Spec Series is just that – a spec car with stock or limited modifications that can be performed. An Open Series allows for more (not unlimited) amount of changes to improve the performance of the car. These series allow the builder to be creative and discover new ways to improve a cars performance. These series can be slightly more expensive due to the expense in additional high-performance parts.
David – thanks for volunteering. How many other members would like to race in the DTM proxy? How many would like to be corner marshals?
I will volunteer to corner marshal and to do commentary.
Marty
Marc,
Great point. I will list part numbers along with the descriptions in the future.
Slot It zero grip front tires: 17″-PT15 and 19″-PT07
Thanks for the input and good luck with preparing your car.
Randy,
The rules for the Proxy race state we will be running the series at 12 volts. The rules for our 2020 Q4 series listed 14 volts but we are not using those rules. We are using the rules for the Proxy. Thanks for asking the question.
Front tires – you can use the 17″ or 19″ diameter versions of the zero grip tires. It depends on how you are setting up your car. You might find the 19″ version easier to set the car up with.
On a side note – are you up for selling your Bosch Alfa? I would like to purchase it if you are up for selling it. Let me know what you want. It would be great if you could leave the car at headquarters and I will come by with some cash to leave for you.
Marty
I just about lost my dinner looking at that picture. You know what they say – “Too much of anything is never good”. That image is the poster child for that statement.
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