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With the Tourist Trophy series going strong, and the rally track beckoning, I thought it might be fun to toss around the idea of a builder’s series for the Rally track. I propose Historic Monte Carlo, 1961 to 1971. This would allow for a wide variety of cars, many readily available. I amp posting this ahead of the October meeting to gauge interest, and possibly get discussion going.I am going to attempt to post 2 pdf files below, a pitch, and a first draft of possible rules.
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-Warren ZevonYou are the man! I love this idea and you have put the work into the rules on the front end. Well done.
I think it would be either a 911 or 914 for me.
I have a fly 911 Rally with the navigator head bashed in and BFGoodrich Canada decals for Ludwig Heimrath IMSA. Has the little duck tail. I have the original narrow wheels and tires that would put it in rally track shape. I also have the low end motor, but also the Olifer chassis to make it a big track car. I strongly advise that the rules spec a tire and wheel combination that is narrower than our Targa Porsches. The motor size also appeals to me, but allow any 12k motor like a Scalextric would have as a white end bell. I have wanted a small Austin Mini Cooper from Scalextric and would need narrow tires. The 904 and 914 (I almost bought my neighbor’s in 1973) are enticing. I keep wishing the rally rules allowed multi-car teams because I want those cars. For information use, are there some appropriate bodies for scratch building with a Penelope Pitlane or Policar F1 chassis, like an old Saab?
Alright, I did just order the most iconic Scalextric Mini, the Monte Carlo Rally red with extra lights and Monte Carlo sign age. I wanted one for years, so even if it does not pan out I’ll enjoy it. I still would like some info on a scratch body one a 3D or Policar chassis.
Marty, you can run a BMW 2002tii sedan finally, if not a Porsche, or Alfa, or Alpine…..
P.S. I understand a CG Slots Maserati Birdcage will not be eligible, but the year I saw it live, 1960, the Camoradi paint job was not on it, so the #66 would just need a number change to #5. Hmmm.
Randy – I think the Scalextric Mini with a 3D chassis would be a great car for the rally track. There is virtually no weight hanging over the back end. The little wheelbase should work well on the rally track. Can’t wait to see it.
Porsche 904? What the heck? I had no idea the 904 had done the Monte. That is crazy.
O think there is (or was an Ocar Saab 96 shell. Car shells need a lot of work, they tend to be thick and heavy, I hear.
The reason I was thinking spec Predator motor was among other things, approaching slow car corner about being a sponsor for the series.
Will have to re-thing ground clearance. Just measured my TR+6. (Did not run the Monte, but some Spitfire fastbacks did.) Anyway, with the small wheels, the motor can is less than 3/32 from the set-up block surface. Would like to avoid slammed cars that don’t look right for the period.
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-Warren ZevonOK with me for Predator if we get “slow car corner” to sponsor. Have you decided to at least allow reference to IMMENSE F1 driver heads?
Sounds like a good idea – you guys thinking the 12k or 18k Predator?
BTW – I have experimented with the Piranha brand 21.5k motors they sell, and find them to be Reliable, $8 (yes half a Slot.IT price) equal to the Orange-Bells.
PSM21 Piranha 21,500 RPM Motor, Short-Can
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Sammy with MontroseSee the proposed Monte-revival rules above.
My Austin Mini Cooper has very narrow tires on plastic rims. I think I can find aluminum wheels for such a popular car and found replacement 29 shore tires. However I believe we need to stay with narrow tires.
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Pendle’s has “10 inch” aluminum wheels, and tires to go with. (I think they are rubber rather than Urethane)
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-Warren ZevonThe cutest slot car I have ever owned, and maybe another iconic car will show up Saturday. Both narrow tires even with the aftermarket wheels and tires.
I think the Monte Carlo tire width should be 6mm which conforms to the stock tires on most older cars and there are plenty of after market wheels with grub screws, inserts and tires. The 1970’s era cars with 3d chassis have room for 8mm tires, but they should run spacers to get to 6mm. Otherwise run a separate class for 60’s cars with narrow tires and early 70’s with wide tires.
I believe that I was the one who first bought one of the Group 2 BRM/TTX 1:24 “mini” cars for a possible series. I propose that we defer these cars for consideration for series in the second half of the year. I think that these cars would make an excellent series, I have not run any of them yet. Considering the array of chassis setups, some with differentials, some with freewheeling fronts, and the variety of cars, we need more time with these cars to see which cars and which setups we want to include for a series.
Russell
I think that the rules for the Monte Carlo series should be somewhat loose concerning wheel/tire width/track width. There are a lot of unknowns with the rally track for car size, width and so on. A small car with little wheels/tires may well outrun a larger car with wide tires. Keeping things open for the first races will allow for experimentation to find out what works. The balance between tire grip for the straights versus the cars sliding in the handbrake turns will be interesting.
Russell
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