2023 – BRM Group 2 Series (Q3)

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    • #18411
      Avatar photoporsche917
      Keymaster

        Please post any notes or questions you have about the BRM Group 2 series.

        Please post information and pics of the car you plan on running in this event.

      • #18413
        Avatar photoRadial TA
        Spectator

          BMW 91 Kleber Le Mans for Radial TA .  Kleber was the BFGoodrich French affiliate in the day.

        • #18433
          Avatar photoporsche917
          Keymaster

            I will be running the Ford Capri RS2600 from the 1973 Nurburgring 6 hour race.  The car was driven by K. Fritzinger (D) and H. Heyer (D).

          • #18438
            Avatar photoBellator
            Keymaster

              Really struggling with the Alfa/BWM decision.  Love them both.  Will have to be a surprise.  😉

            • #18442
              Avatar photoRadial TA
              Spectator

                (un) BOX   

                I like the Alfas but they are on pre-order and I could not stand to wait when this car with the lovely striping was available.  I think we should wait for the next batch of cars.

                 

                 

                 

              • #18484
                Avatar photoBellator
                Keymaster

                  There was a lot of discussion at the club meeting on Nov 19 regarding the difference in the Group 2 BMW’s available from BRM.  The three pictures below should make it clear.  The differences are largely in fender flares vs bulged fenders and the front air dams. Also, the LM version appears with an extra set of headlights mounted in one photo.  I don’t remember seeing those on Randy’s, but maybe they are in the box.

                  It is worth noting that if you are looking at the white kits on BRM’s web site, the photos are wrong. The DRM and LM types are reversed.

                  I will be entering an Art Car version of one of these.  Most likely the Type A.

                  Type A

                  LM

                  DRM

                • #18487
                  Avatar photoDatto
                  Spectator

                    Thanks to the understanding of you guys, I will be entering the # 81 Zender Scirocco

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                  • #18490
                    Avatar photoRadial TA
                    Spectator

                      Follow up on the Saturday comparison of Russ’s Alfa and my BMW, maybe I will be lobbying for required minimum weight of the cars.  My car seems to be way heavier, but prettier.  Welcome Scirocco.  If all else fails the shortage of Alfas might be filled by race series time.

                       

                    • #18495
                      Avatar photochapracer65
                      Spectator

                        I will probably run one of these Alfas.  I just ordered them.

                        My bad.  I was doing an eBay search for BRM Alfa in 1:32 scale and there was a seller with a twin pack of Alfas, a red one and a yellow one.  I thought that would give me a couple of options and I went ahead and ordered it before checking the item more closely.  It was a twin pack of Revoslot Alfas.  So……I guess I will run one of them on the rally track.

                        Russell

                      • #18512
                        Avatar photoBellator
                        Keymaster

                          Hmm… what do we have here?

                        • #18515
                          Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
                          Spectator

                            # 81 Zender Scirocco

                            Nice looking car Marc!

                          • #18523
                            Avatar photoporsche917
                            Keymaster

                              Brian – I love the possibilities.  Can’t wait to see it finished.

                               

                               

                            • #18890
                              Avatar photoRadial TA
                              Spectator

                                UN BOX BOX BOX!  (with a German accent)

                                I finally tried the BMW 91 Kleber Le Mans on my power strip and it was noisy.  After a few hours I stopped it and later opened it up.  On the track it was a 5.5 second mess.  The front axle assemblies were fully tight, so I loosened them and lubed the bearing surfaces.  They are cambered axle holders.  Down to 4.5 seconds and with some practice 4.3.  I am tempted to slap a BMW sticker on the chassis and run in the prototype class of Le Mans.  The sedan is slowing it down, specifically where the front tires rub the fenders.

                                The Lexan rattles so I dabbed some Shoo Goo on the edges and that helped.

                                For some reason other than lead trigger finger it de-slots randomly in the button turn blue lane.  Maybe I am driving randomly trying to find the braking point and intensity.  Or is it torquing itself out of the turn?  The spring loaded guide might be “wrong”.  No weight added.  No front auxiliary driving lights added.  HMMMMMM.

                              • #18909
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                                Keymaster

                                  Randy – Happy to hear you were able to get your times down.  I will say these cars like to be as low to the track as possible.  I would remove the spring from the guide and see how low you can get the front of the car so the entire guide, with new thin braid, can get in the slot.  As Chubby Checkers says “How low can you go?”

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKBsJoA7jk

                                • #19091
                                  Avatar photoRadial TA
                                  Spectator

                                    Did we decide to do a bulk order of urethane tires?  Count me in if so.

                                  • #19093
                                    Avatar photoporsche917
                                    Keymaster

                                      All,

                                      Due to the lack of durability in the stock BRM rear tires, the rules have been updated with a change to a required spec tire – Paul Gage, urethane, shore 20, part #XPG-21125LMDF.  These tires are available from Slot Car Corner.

                                      These tires will need to be glued to the rims, trued, and have their edges rounded to work well.  These tires will not have the same level of grip as the stock tires but they will last significantly longer and be much easier to true.

                                      The rules have been updated to reflect this change.

                                    • #19100
                                      Avatar photochapracer65
                                      Spectator

                                        Many thanks to Brian and Marty for updating the race rules about these tires.

                                      • #19109
                                        Avatar photoDatto
                                        Spectator

                                          A little late getting the memo. Hope my PG tires arrive in time.

                                        • #19112
                                          Avatar photoMel
                                          Spectator

                                            I ordered the Kadett white kit from 132slotcar with plenty of time for it to ship early last week, but it still hasn’t shipped and I have received no responses to my inquiries.  I’d heard this was an issue with them sometimes, but I had already done a couple orders with them and they were shipped immediately with no issues.  Anyway, fingers crossed that a miracle happens!  I am probably going to do another hydro-dip on this one.  Stock pic for reference.  

                                          • #19119
                                            Avatar photoBellator
                                            Keymaster

                                              Teaser…BMW 2002ti Livery Teaser

                                            • #19129
                                              Avatar photoMel
                                              Spectator

                                                I got my white kit in today but just discovered Slot Car Corner sent me the wrong tires.  They have the correct tires listed on the invoice, but those are not the ones they sent.  Been scrambling to get this white kit built and then to discover that… what a bummer.

                                              • #19146
                                                Avatar photoMel
                                                Spectator

                                                  A tire truing question for these “bigguns”:  is it a general rule of thumb to have the front of the car such that tires should only touch when cornering or do we want those front tires making contact with the track at all times with these bigger cars?  Without the adjustable axle height, I decided to true my front tires a little more today and have that front riding like a Group C car.  But now I am feeling like maybe I should have followed Russel’s lead with the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” philosophy.  He said he didn’t anything to his car since last race and still smoked all of us with a 6 lap lead between him and 2nd.

                                                • #19147
                                                  Avatar photoporsche917
                                                  Keymaster

                                                    Mel,

                                                    I generally like to have the front tires just touch the track to help reduce some of the drag on the guide just a little bit.  It’s a fine balance.  If you have the tires riding up and all the pressure on the guide you might be slightly slower because of the friction/drag.

                                                    I agree with Russell’s statement – If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.  Many a slot car racer has fallen victim to messing with their car too much and watching the performance go backwards.

                                                    Best of luck with it!

                                                    Marty

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