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Lets start listing ideas of series for CY-2017. My drafts:
— 1/32 Porsche 917s from various classic races. Various brands allowed, such as NSR, Carerra with HRS2 chassis, etc.
— An all Corvette series.
— CanAm redux
— Classic F1 – with limited upgrades to guides and rear wheels/tires. Cartrix has some beautiful models. Motors are a mix of Mabuchi-S/D (Fc130) or FF
— Classic NASCAR – Pioneer or Scaley body with open chassis.
— 1/32 dirt-modifeds with womp chassis, rubber tires, laminated cardboard bodies."... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with MontroseWhat about a Fly Porsche 917K race series using Shapeways chassis? There are tons of body options and you can find them on eBay for $30.
Porsche 917s – NSR only. Only white is available so it will also be a concours competition.
Ford GT-40 – NSR only. There are multiple bodies available (MK-I, MK-II, MK-IV etc)
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Sammy with MontroseI would like to run an NSR series as I joined too late for the Mosler series and did not realize the NSR was the best choice for the GT series. Either run Mosler again or the Porsche 917 NSR. I finally am getting good with the old standby Group C porsche so bring that back. I am also a big fan of the 60’s cars like Cobras, Ferraris, porsches, etc. using Nincos Flys and Monograms with liberal addition of power and wheels/tires but set up fair/competitive. Finally, my dream year would include TransAm again if it included the 2 liter and 2.5 liter cars and my Radial Tirebird BFG decorated car.
- 1/24 BRMs – not limited to Group-Cs, lets include the 917s, McLarens and Ferrari-512s.
- Russell suggested a ‘bracket race’ where a car is given an ‘index’ from the best time of a 3 to 5 minute qualifying run, (and we could also have 3 qualifying runs and pick the average of the 3 best times). So, all teams (driver & car) with indexes from 3.7 to 3.75 would race each other, … with a 3.85-3.9 index would race together, etc. The only restriction would be scale (1/32) of the car.
- Vintage Classics Race
Spec would be for a Slot.It HRS-2 chassis; body would be GTs, Daytona Prototypes, basically 1970s-80s cars that are currently in vintage heros races. Cobras, Cheetas, Ferrari GTs and GTOs, McLaren coupes, classic Mercs, classic corvettes, from FLY, NINCO, Carrerra, Scaley, etc. Motor < 25k; Weight <100g; Rear Tires 17×12 max.
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Here are my thoughts on 2017 race series:
Goodwood Series–Based on my belief that the series was based on the original races, I had already selected a car that I thought would be an extremely competitive car–a Strombecker Lotus 30 with a Slot.it GT 40 chassis. Just like the Fly Ferrari GTO, the GT40 chassis looked like a perfect fit. After talking with Ary about a coupe-only series and reviewing my Doug Nye book on Goodwood, I agree that roadsters like the Lotus would be more competitive than the coupes. That, plus the fact that they only ran the prototypes with the GT cars in 1964, I think the Goodwood series should be coupes only. This will result in a (hopefully) competitive series. Car options would include the myriad of FlyFerrari GTOs with either a GT40 chassis as I described in my how-to article (only with an inline motor instead of sidewinder) or the Shapeways Olifer or similar chassis. The Fly Ferraris are available for $50-$60 plus the chassis. Fly also has a Ferrari 250LM. There are Revell/Monogram Daytona Cobras and lightweight Jaguar E-types and vintage Monogram Ferrari 250 LM and Revell 289 Cobras with hardtops. If someone wanted more variety there are a lot of MMK cars available or a variety of Racer cars as well. I will bring my Goodwood book to the next event. It has vintage photos as well as photos and full race results for all the Revival races from 1998 to 2007.
Porsche 917–I disagree that the Fly/Shapeways series would be more expensive/difficult than the NSR series. There are a great variety of Fly 917’s available for $40-$60 plus a $15 chassis where the NSR’s are $80-$100. As for the Fly interior, it is easy to put in a flat sheet interior with a driver head and arms and an upper dash. I think either series would work.
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The Fly vs. NSR cost analysis is not as far apart as you may think. It all starts with the purchase price for either of the cars but for the sake of argument lets say the Fly is purchased for $30 and the NSR is purchased for $100. Lets look at the list of parts needed to build the Fly into a solid runner vs the NSR. I am not including anything about the amount of time it would take to complete the build.
As you can see here the cost is virtually the same. I am not arguing for one vs the other but I do think its important we are comparing them on equal terms of cost before making a decision.
Yes, of course the Fly would need all the parts for a complete car where the NSR would at least, nominally, be complete, but the end results would be that the costs were similar.
Good catch Shawn. There is another $18 for the NSR but at least I get a good quality 20K motor to use later or put in a car of Jenson. What if we said all the motors had to be 20K and we run the power at 12v? Didn’t see that coming did you?
This is your beginner speculating on the unfamiliar world of volts.
Would 12 volts on the 20,000 Shark simulate the high revving Porsche motor better than 35,000 at 11 volts? Does the 12 volts make really hyper active cars?
If we don’t do the 20,000 for the 917’s, maybe the Goodwood cars should be 20,000 at 12 volts.
NSR 917
1. What bodies are allowed?
2. The hard cockpit has a deep tub – it can interfere if you want to place ballast midway or behind the front axle. I propose we allow lexan cockpits.
3. The stock chassis is the medium black – an extra hard green is available for $9-12usd depending on the vendor.
4. The car is light and the 20k can work, but can we allow the 25k?
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