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All – I just received the order of Shore 30 and Shore 25 tires. I have them sitting on top of my pit boxes. Take what you need and just let me know.
I really like Erik’s idea of holding an endurance race of some type. We have run these previously but the challenge is setting up the two person teams. Always a challenge.
Mike – Thanks for reaching out. Good to hear from you. You joined the ASCC on Feb 4th of 2012 with an annual membership. It looks like the membership was not renewed. We send emails for the time you are a member but stop once your membership expires. We also don’t send many emails as we rely on the clubs website as our primary means of communication.
Please come visit us at our new location at 8222 Jamestown, Unit E2. We are there every Saturday and Thursday evenings from 5-9.
We are still completing work on our new facility but we are at least racing again.
Our membership structure has changed along with our new location. We have two levels of membership – a standard membership of $150 per year or a premium membership that is $75 per month. There are benefits for the premium membership like reserved parking, reserved pit box space with the ability to purchase more, reduced race entry fees and a key to the space so it can be used at any time.
Let me know if you have any additional questions.
Marty
The series we did not finish last year were the 1/24 BRM Group C and the Targa Florio on the rally track. We could add those to the calendar as most everyone that was going to race in those series should already have cars. This will help keep the expense down.
What additional series could we run?
I would suggest either a Scalextric or Fly BMW E30 series or a Slot It DTM series
NSR F1 series – this could be run as a El Piloto/IROC style.
NSR Porsche GT2 series – Porsche Cup Series
Ford vs Ferrari series with Slot It Ford GT40’s vs Policar Ferrari P4
After running both shore 30 and shore 25 people I found that the shore 25 tires provided better grip and did not show any excess wear. I have eight pairs of these shore 25 tires arriving Friday and will have them with me at the track on Saturday. I will arrive early so people have time to true up a pair before we race.
Eric,
You are allowed to make that modification. The Mazda has only been tried once but it, like the other models with wings hanging off the back – Jaguar, Sauber Mercedes and the Nissan – don’t seem to work well on our track. I would love to see you get the Mazda working as you did with the Sauber Mercedes. Good luck.
All,
The new rules have been posted on the clubs website. Please post all questions on the clubs website for everyone to view.
Marty
Tom,
Wow. Thanks for the information and the option. We are still looking into all the options to see what will work best for everyone in the club. I will keep you in the loop as things move forward.
I really appreciate you offering your space to the club.
Marty
Tom,
Thanks so very much for the offer. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I am on vacation and the internet is spotty at best.
At the moment the club is looking into all of the options we have. We will definitely consider your offer as one of those options. Neither of our tracks are very portable so we are looking into options that would allow us to move them whole. We will be in touch.
The axle diameter on the 1/24 scale cars is 3mm – just like the RevoSlot’s. I don’t know which of our truer’s other than the Hudy will work with a 3mm axle. If you can’t find the 3mm axle for the Hudy you can use your BRM axle as the truer axle.
I would not suggest shore 22 tires. Think of the added weight of these cars and the acceleration these cars have coming out of the turns. We run shore 30’s because we have tried 22’s and 15’s in the past only to discover they shred rubber like crazy. You will be surprised at how much rubber comes off of the 30’s much less the 22’s. Having said that, you are more than welcome to try them out. We will allow 22’s and 15’s for those brave enough to run them.
Answers to the points brought up above are listed below.
The rules have been updated to show the new rear wheel/tire spec – Scaleauto SC-2424P.
The hard BRM foam tires put down a layer of harder rubber on the track that is difficult for the softer Scaleauto tires to hook up on. We will be cleaning the track to pull up the hard rubber and put down the softer Scaleauto foam rubber.
I have tried shore 30, shore 22 and shore 15 BRM rubber tires and none of them worked well.
Motors – I personally would not a red motor but I have not actually run one recently. We did run them in some of our previous BRM series. Maybe it could work. I’m not going to try it but its left in the rules in case someone would like to give it a try.
Rear tire specs have been updated. The minimum rear tire diameter at the start of a race is 26.5mm.
Tire Question – This is not some Euro carry over rule. This rule exists in many of the series run in the States. Our truer is not set up for putting a conical shape to the tires but it can easily be done. The purpose is to have a smaller contact patch for front tires so their is less drag when running the large width wheels/tires.
I appreciate your input and agree with your points to a degree. I too never ran wing cars in the 70’s but did run AFX G-Plus cars in the 80’s and they did run foam in their stock configuration. Having said that, I am not married to foam but the big cars work so much better using them, or at least they did at one time. We need to figure out what we need to do to get the tires to get some grip. I will be at the track next Saturday working the problem. Any and all help would be welcome.
RevoSlot – the tires for RevoSlot were hard to come by and were very inconsistent. The idea was to move to a foam tire that would be far more consistent, easy to source and equally if not more drive-able. The other thing is the Scaleauto foam tire is the same width for everyone where the RevoSlot Porsche uses an 8mm rear tire compared to the Marcos 9mm and the Viper/Toyota 10mm. Now all the cars will run the same 10mm width foam tires.
Realistic Speeds – I don’t think the BRM Group C cars speed will be out of scale, in fact, I believe it will be closer to scale than the other series we run.
The Wear Lines on the Track – The wear lines on the track can be removed after we run the series or we can stick with foam tires moving forward. A question the club will have to answer.
The trouble with wheels/tires……….
In spending a couple of hours running the BRM Group C cars today with the goal of “rubbering in” the track I found there was little if any improvement to the cars grip. I called Alan at 132slotcar to get his input and learned that the BRM wheels/tires I have spec’ed in the rules are a hard compound of foam and will only hook up once the track has many many hours of running. The Scaleauto ProComp 3 tires we used to run are softer and would hook up better but Scaleauto no longer makes the replacement BRM wheels. In looking for a suitable option tonight I discovered Scaleauto produces a wheel/tire that is .5mm wider (16mm vs 15.5mm) and 1mm smaller diameter (27.5mm vs. 28.5mm). Unbelievably, I had mis-ordered a set of these wheels months ago and have them in hand to see just how they will work on the car. I mounted them to a Porsche, Mercedes and a Toyota and they fit perfect on all three. The lower profile also allows the car to sit lower in the rear and that can do nothing other than improve the cornering. I will be taking the cars to the track on Sunday to see how they work. I will update the forum and change the rules if needed.
Randy – The rules were updated a couple of days ago to include the verbiage of having the weights inside the car and not visible.
The motors all have different RPM and Torque ratings to I am going to leave those open choice. The black motor that is in all the newer models will work fine so I wouldn’t worry about changing it.
