Touring car proxy

[Mitleid]

2013 Touring Car Series Rules

These rules are based on Slot Car Illustrated’s Touring Car Championship annual proxy series. The idea here is that after competing in the club’s series, you  can use your car to participate on the proxy series.

 

Changes to the original rules are highlighted.

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Rule Number One:

Any modification not specifically detailed below is not allowed.

1. Body/Chassis

1.1: Any Injection molded or resin bodied car from the approved list that was marketed as a 1/32 scale Ready-to-Run (RTR) slot car. No vacuum formed or blow molded bodies. Cars are required to have been in actual real world (1:1 scale) production AFTER January 1, 2003.

Approved List:

Alfa 156 GTA
Audi A4 DTM
Audi TT DTM
BMW E 46 3 Series, 2 or 4 door
Ford Focus
Ford Falcon
Holden Commodore
Honda Accord
Honda Civic Type-R
Hyundai Accent
Mercedes C-class DTM
Mercedes CLK DTM
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Opel Astra 
Opel Vectra
Opel V8 DTM Coupe
Peugeot 406 Coupe
SEAT Leon
Subaru Imprezza WRX STI
Volvo S60R

1.2: Chassis and body must be a naturally mated RTR set from the same manufacturer. No HRS/ HRS2. No chassis or body swapping with another model is allowed. Chassis may be braced, reinforced or strengthened. Minor trimming is allowed for body float. Chassis cutting, chopping, sawing or drilling is not allowed. Body screws should be taped to prevent loss.

1.3: Guide may not project beyond the body when aligned for straight, as viewed from directly above.

1.4: Cars must have sufficient ground clearance to permit free running without contacting track. Cars which drag on the track may be excluded at the track owners’ discretion.

1.5: Clear window material must be used where the real car has clear material.

1.6: Racing numbers must be visible in three places on body. Racing numbers must match. Bodies may be painted in fantasy or realistic liveries. Non-decorated cars (for example plain white kits) are not allowed.

1.7: Headlights and tail lights are required, but are not required to actually illuminate.

1.8: Interior must include, at minimum, dashboard top. Rear shelf is required under rear window, if car has a rear window. Driver figure must be included. If vacuum formed, must be of reasonable detail and proportion. Champion style and paper drivers are not permitted.

1.9: Maximum weight limit is 105 Gm. Minimum weight limit is 80 Gm. Maximum width is 2.44″ (62mm).

2. Wheels and Tires

2.1: Tires may not project beyond the body when the car is at rest on a level track, as viewed from directly above.

2.2: Reasonable scale appearing inserts are required in all wheels, unless the wheels have scale appearance and detail. Blank disc wheels, and wheels pierced with simple holes, must be covered with inserts. For example, Kai’s multi-hole “Alfa” wheels, SCC Super Wheels with lugs, and CBD wheels have sufficient detail to be permitted without inserts, but anything with less detail must have inserts.

2.3: Minimum wheel size is nominal 15mm diameter over center-rib, or a scale 16″ (.500″) diameter over visible part of rim with tire mounted (simulating a nominal 15″ wheel), unless actual car raced with smaller wheels. Slot.It F1 wheels are not allowed, unless the actual car raced with 13″-14″ nominal diameter rims.]

2.4: Slot.It Low Profile Zero Grips (SIPT-015) tires, and others of that size are prohibited, due to non-scale appearance. Min front tire diameter is 17mm.

2.5: Minimum front tire width is 8mm. Front tires may be profiled so that a narrower area contacts the track, but must otherwise be full width.

2.6: Front tires may be of any rubber/urethane compound. Silicon tires are expressly forbidden. Tires must appear to be black. Clear finish may be applied to tire tread area.

2.7: Rear tires allowed are: NSR Supergrip or Slot.it N22. No chemical treatment (such as oil soaking) is permitted. 

3. Motors

3.1: Any commercially available sealed-can slot car motor that produces less than 25K rpm at 12 Volts is allowed. No rewinds or “mod motors” allowed.

3.2: Magnetic down force from motor may not exceed 30 grams as checked with a Magnet Marshal, exclusive of car weight.

3.3: Motor can be glued/taped/screwed in place. Pods can be taped or glued to restrict movement.

4. Modifications

4.1: Wheels, tires, gears, axles, guides, braids, wires, and bearings may be modified or replaced by any manufacturer’s parts. All wheel drive, and multiple motors, may be used only if the actual car used them.

4.2: Weight/ballast can be added to the car but must be contained on the inside of the body.

4.3: Spring and magnetic suspension packages are allowed as long as no cutting of the chassis is required.

4.4: No traction magnets allowed.

4.5: Bushings can be glued into place.

4.6: Slot Car Corner’s adjustable front axle mounts can be installed.

4.7: B-Nova guide and motor adapters can be installed.

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Autorama]

Yes, those are the rules. The rules will be slightly modified when it comes to the car setup but you can start looking for cars with the provided list.

[Mitleid]

Ok good deal i remove all the rules to avoid any confusion

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Autorama]

All,

Do your research before purchasing the touring cars!! If you plan on purchasing a Fly touring car, make sure it is the racing version; most of the regular versions have motors mounted on the front – you don’t want those.

 

[Mitleid]

hey out of Autoart/Ninco/scalextric/SCX which is the most raceable or able to mod the easiest to be competative

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Mitleid]

Also I was noticing alot of BMW M3 models  is that covered under the 3 series. It is kinda a gray zone as it is the 3 series entry of the M series

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Autorama]

hey out of Autoart/Ninco/scalextric/SCX which is the most raceable or able to mod the easiest to be competative

I would forget SCX, they need the most work and generally are very narrow cars; the other brands will all need about the same amount of work. Scaley and Autoart will be sidewinder cars, Ninco will probably be anglewinder; all will need new wheels & gears.

Also I was noticing alot of BMW M3 models  is that covered under the 3 series. It is kinda a gray zone as it is the 3 series entry of the M series

BMW is one of the model that can be used both on Touring and GT; for touring you need to look at the body, it should look like the street version.

I also have problems identifying differences between touring and GT cars; my best advice is to use google images .

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Clipped from wikipedia:

For the casual observer, there can be a great deal of confusion when it comes to classifying closed-wheel racing cars as ‘touring cars’ or ‘sports cars’ (also known as GT cars).

In general, however, touring cars are based upon family cars (such as hatchbacks, saloons or estates), while GT racing cars are based upon more powerful and expensive sports cars, such as Ferraris or Lamborghinis (and are thus usually coupes). Underneath the bodywork, a touring car is often more closely related to its road-going origins, using many original components and mountings, while some top-flight GT cars are purpose-built tube-frame racing chassis underneath a cosmetic body shell.

[Race Control]

If I could only find glass and full interior for the Ford Falcon.

[Race Control]

Would someone please explain how the proxy works? Sorry for the dumb question.

[Mitleid]

We are having in in-house race using the same rules as the SCI proxy race.  Here is the SCI post on it SCI Touring Car Proxy

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Race Control]

The way a proxy works is people from differnet geographical locations build cars based on certain criteria i.e. Touring cars, Pony cars, Slot.it Group C., etc.  They build these cars to the best of their ability and then ship them to a central location.  From there a list of hosts with tracks will then take all the cars from the participants and race them.  These tracks are in all areas and regions.  There are typically about 10 – 12 tracks in a series.  The cars are shipped from one track to the next.  From there is comes down to who can drive which car the best.  This really comes down a who can make the smoothest cars that can be driven fast.  It can be really frustrating at times but I’m in 2 proxy series right now.  

Hope this helps.

[Mitleid]

	Fly	ninco	scx	scalextric	carrera	revel	cartrix	Autoart	spirit
Alfa 156 GTA	1
Audi A4 DTM			1		1
Audi TT DTM		1	1
BMW E 46 3 Series, 2 or 4 door	1		1	1		1
Ford Focus			1	1
Ford Falcon				*1
Holden Commodore				1
Honda Accord			1
Honda Civic Type-R
Hyundai Accent			1				1
Mercedes C-class DTM			1		1
Mercedes CLK DTM		1	1
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution		1	1	1				1
Opel Astra		1	1	1
Opel Vectra			1	1	1
Opel V8 DTM Coupe			1	1		1
Puegoet 406 Coupe									1
SEAT Leon			1	1
Subaru Imprezza WRX STI		1	1	1	1			1
Volvo S60R			1

"If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

[Autorama]

Stephen,

This should help you: https://www.slotcarillustrated.com/portal/forums/showthread.php?t=50659

 

BTW, Proslot (no longer in business) also made an Alfa 156; it is a podded, sidewinder chassis. There’s one on Ebay with 3 days left: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-Pro-Slot-3-SELENIA-ALFA-ROMEO-GT-used-/170933400930?pt=Slot_Cars&hash=item27cc6cb562

Here are a few more pictures of the Proslot Alfa: https://photobucket.com/images/Alfa+Romeo+156+White+-+Proslot/

 

I always thought this would be a good car to prep.

Ary.

[Autorama]

First post has been updated with the rules.

The easiest brands to work with, in my opinion, are:

1. FLY Racing Kit; FLY Racing (BMW M3 & Alfa 156)
2. Spirit (Peugeot 406 Coupe – Silhouette version is NOT ALLOWED)
3. ProSlot (Alfa 156)
4. Scalextric
5. Autoart
6. Ninco
7. SCX

Good luck to all.

[Bellator]

Unless you are

  a) up for a huge challenge with little chance for reward or
  b) are just a glutton for punishment

skip the SCX brand cars. I have tried to prep two of these (A Volvo and a BMW) for touring car proxies and found that the level of changes required to the body and chassis are simply too great.  At a minimum you are looking at replacing the entire guide post assembly, modifying the motor pod to fit a more traditional motor, and probably modifying the interior to clear a new motor (which starts to bump up against the rules).  

As Ary pointed out most of their cars are very narrow, although some would argue they are actually closer to scale than other brands.  The one exception is their DTM series of cars, which are also wider in 1:1 scale.  (Think EU version of NASCAR with left and right turns.)

Build it strong.
Keep it simple.
Make it work.
      (Leroy Grumman)

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