ASCC 2023 Monte Carlo Rally

[Radial TA]

For another Monte Carlo race I found a site with lists of cars participating by year.  This could help pick some years when we might, or might not, want two classes of slot cars again.

[Radial TA]

https://www.juwra.com/monte_carlo_1980_results.html

You can move back to 1973 or through the 79’s to the 1980.

[porsche917]

I would love to run another Monte Carlo series within that time frame.  Finally an opportunity to run the Lancia Stratos Group 4 rally car.  I can’t wait.

Marty

[Radial TA]

If our second choice for a rally class is the RevoSlot Alfa and other car, I would like to also run those cars on the big track.  Fairfield Meadows I call it.  Those RevoSlot cars are so good I hate to take them out of service.  My Porsche from a few years ago was one of my favorites.  We could even run on the big track as SCCA TransAm U2.5  and IMSA similar displacement.  I recently stumbled across a metal chassis, used instead of a 3d plastic replacement.  That might offer more cars to run with the RevoSlot cars.

[Radial TA]

MR Slotcar aluminum chassis for Slot.it group C and adaptable to other wheelbases.

MR Slotcar Evolution Metal Chassis Kit A

[Radial TA]

This set of entries have bee copied to the new 2023 race suggestion Forum.

DO NOT ENTER ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PAGE UNTIL AFTER THERE IS A DECISION TO RUN THIS CLASS.

[Datto]

The Monte part 2 is official!

I will be updating-revising rules from the 2022 Monte.

Some changes-clarifications on tap are:

Rear tire width to distinguish class A from class B (8mm cutoff, rather than 9mm)

One entry per club member per class.

No duplicate liveries.

Plastic chassis only.

What do you think of 30 laps rather than 40, to speed things along?

Thoughts?

[StabnSteer]

Personally, the 40 is a real mental test…30 would just not be the same. And we’d not really be saving all that much time.

[porsche917]

I agree that 40 is a real test.  I think it also gives you some extra laps to claw back some time if you need to.  I say keep it at 40.

[BarkingSpyder]

KEEP 40 LAPS for Monte

[Datto]

The people have spoken.

40 laps it is.

[Radial TA]

I am good for the 40 laps.  I need the 10 laps to balance out the 20 laps of blunders.  I totally agree with the 8mm rear tire limit.  The wider 9mm limit accidentally let an A class Porsche 914 run in the B class.  The list of real entrants for Le Mans has Group numbers that seem to denote at least the engine capacity but also maybe other factors.  I do not think we should use the real Le Mans group numbers, but they are a good guide for figuring out a slot car for A or B modeling.  See below:

https://www.juwra.com/car_classifications.html

Home > Specials > Regulations > Car classifications
The diversity of the cars that have been and are being rallied is staggering. Since small citycar is no match for a big engined sports car, how should different types of cars relate to each others and should there be equality rules? In early days there were rules that penalized cars with bigger engines but currently the principle is to divide cars in groups and classes to compete against similar cars rather than against all the other cars.

From 2011, classes are no longer tied to specific groups but rather are a mix of similarly performing cars from different groups. This results a quite an impressive list of classes, at least for time being until older groups are phased out.

Classes
Groups
WRC (A0)
WRC (2011): 1.6T engine with WRC kit
A1  S2000-Rally: 1.6T engine
A2  S2000-Rally: 2.0 atmospheric,  Group R4 cars
A3  Group N car over 2000cc (former N4)
A4  RGT cars
A5  Group A car 1601-2000 cc , Super 1600 cars, R2C, R3C, R3T and R3D cars
A6  Group A car 1401-1600cc,  R2B cars,  kit car 1401-1600cc
A7  Group A car up to 1400cc,  kit car up to 1400cc
A8  Group N car 1601-2000cc
A9  Group N car 1401-1600cc,  R1B cars
A10  Group N car up to 1400cc,  R1A cars

Since 1981, there have been two groups, N and A. These were introduced, alongside groups like B and S, to replace the original numeric groups 1 to 5 which were used in 1973-1981. To put it short, Group N is a standard car with very few modifications allowed whereas Group A is fully prepared racing car. Classes within group are based on cubic capacity of the car as follows.

Group N  production cars
Group A  modified road-going cars

Cubic capacity  Group N  Group A
1400cc or less  N1  A5
1401-1600cc  N2  A6 (incl. S1600)
1601-2000cc  N3  A7 (incl. F2)
over 2000cc  N4  A8 (incl. WRC)

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