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October 14, 2024 at 8:09 AM #19765BellatorKeymaster
2025 Series Candidates
The agreed race series candidates are below. I have provided links to the latest version of existing series rules if we have run the series in the past, as well as links to the manufacturer’s website and vendors carrying the class. Mark provided links to the list of entrants for the Targa Florio rally race and observed a good number of RTR cars available for each date range.
I will send out a voting poll next weekend and ask that everyone cast their votes before the next race on Oct 26
Slot.it Group C – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2024 Slot.it Group C
- Manufacturers website: Slot-it Group C
- Example vendor websites:
Targa Florio 1966 to 1969 – Rally Track
- Rules to be developed
- 1966 Entrants
- 1967 Entrants
- 1968 Entrants
- 1969 Entrants
Targa Florio 1970 to 1973 – Rally Track
- Rules to be developed
- 1970 Entrants
- 1971 Entrants
- 1972 Entrants
- 1973 Entrants
Racer Sideways Group 5 – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2021 Racer Sideways Group 5 (Subject to revision)
- Manufacturer’s FB page: Racer Slot Cars
- Example vendor websites:
NSR F22 – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2024 NSR Formula 22 (Subject to revision)
- Manufacturer’s website: NSR Formula 22
- Example vendor websites:
NSR 997 Sidewinder – Road Track
- Rules to be developed
- Manufacturer’s website: NSR Porsche 997
- Example vendor websites:
NSR 997 Sidewinder – Rally Track
- Rules to be developed
- Manufacturer’s website: NSR Porsche 997
- Example vendor websites:
NSR Mosler Sidewinder – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2015 NSR Mosler Series (Subject to revision)
- Manufacturer’s website:
- Example vendor websites:
Revoslot Toyota GT-One Spec race – Road Track
- Rules to be developed
- Manufacturer’s website: Revoslot Toyota GT1
- Example vendor websites:
Revoslot Group 2 – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2023 RevoSlot Rally (Subject to revision based on available qualified cars and setup options.)
- Manufacturer’s website: Revoslot
- Example vendor websites:
Thunderslot Lola T70/McLaren M6A/McLaren Elva/Ferrari 350 – Road Track
- Previous Rules: 2022 Thunderslot (Subject to revision based on new car availability)
- Manufacturer’s website: Thunderslot
- Example vendor websites:
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October 15, 2024 at 10:17 AM #19785KimParticipant
I have a couple of questions that might influence my voting.
For the NSR 997 Road or Rally track proposed race, is there a limitation on whether it is a sidewinder or anglewinder?
For the Revoslot, Group 2 race, I could run my Datsun 510, correct?
And last, if selected, any advice on what to run for the Racer Sideways Group 5? I am such a threat on the track I know you will be hesitant to advise. 😉
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October 15, 2024 at 4:21 PM #19786BellatorKeymaster
Hi Kim,
For the Porsche spec race I think we should standardize on the sidewinder chassis. It is more “correct” for the car and simplifies setup to some extent. We have struggled getting sidewinders tuned to our track, although not impossible.
Yes to the Datsun 510.
Will need another member to weigh in on the group 5 car. I will be campaigning an M1, but I haven’t run this series in many years and never with a Racer Sideways chassis so can’t offer any help here.
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October 16, 2024 at 8:29 PM #19790BellatorKeymaster
Note: I edited the original list to add ‘Sidewinder’ to the NSR 997 entries. If anyone objects please speak up.
Also note that there are still angle-winder cars on the candidate list. The Toyota GT One, and the Revslot Group 2’s.
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October 16, 2024 at 8:44 PM #19791BellatorKeymaster
NSR 997 Spec Race
Brining the topic back to the surface regarding flipping a coin to determine which track to run on for each race in the series.
Marc and I have exchanged thoughts on this and think that if we stuck to a simple podium / points standard the scoring is simplified and standardized between tracks. This does leave the possibility of ties, but I think coming up with at tie breaker rubric would not be that challenging. For example: make the differentiator the total number of laps on the road track divided by the total time in seconds on the rally track, largest number wins the place.
Thoughts?
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October 17, 2024 at 10:01 PM #19793Radial TAParticipant
I agree with the points scoring for the series with big/rally heats. An alternative that also breaks the 6 race mold, run four races on each track with two in each direction on each track. The “reverse” direction on the big track would make it even more Targa Florio difficult. I’m happy either way. That really would differentiate the club champion for 2025.
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October 20, 2024 at 2:57 PM #19794DattoParticipant
Some Cars available for the 67-69 Targa Florio:
SCX has a Lancia Fulvia, and a Fiat 124, George Turner has an MGC-GT kit. I will post more as I find them.
There are also the Ford FT350, and Lola T70 from Thunderbolt, but they are too far out of scale.
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October 22, 2024 at 7:24 PM #19795KimParticipant
I am excited! Let’s vote so I can go shopping!
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October 30, 2024 at 3:00 PM #19817Radial TAParticipant
Kim, I think you can find results for the races from the articles. The podium pictures and race result tables tell the story. If you notice someone finishing in top two or three places you can ask that person what they drove. In some cases the car right out of the box was best and in others the owner put a great deal of effort, parts, testing and driving skill into the results. Some members buy two cars for the class plus two or three extra motors. I am not that member! Some of us also have cars built by better racers.
I want to go shopping in at least one class, the 997 Porsche in the same livery as my 1970 Targa Florio Porsche 908/3 roadster
See you at the next race I hope. We are in need of a red car.
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October 30, 2024 at 8:18 PM #19819KimParticipant
How much longer are we leaving the poll open? I am wondering about the results.
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November 2, 2024 at 8:34 AM #19825DattoParticipant
Is this where the polling results will be posted? (They were sent out on the mailing list). Will there be new thread set up?
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November 2, 2024 at 8:42 PM #19826MelParticipant
Responding to some things said in the email thread about the poll results –
I haven’t been doing this long enough to be a good judge of the F22 tires. I am having a problem with my crown gear, but that might be because I lost my rear axle spacers and have not been using them. Other people seem to have some problems. That being said, we had a vote and they made the cut. I know most of you have been doing this a lot longer me, but for my 2 cents I’d say the important thing is keeping it fair. Sounds like these cars might have their quirks and those quirks are there for all of us; i.e. – it’s fair.
I agree that it’s a bummer Group C didn’t make the cut, but again we had a fair vote.
Finally (and I don’t know if this question can be answered now), seems like the Ferrari 512 and BMW could be the likely “go to” cars for the Racer Sideways Group 5 series. Do we know if any cars will be banned? I have Thanksgiving break coming up and trying to figure out which car to get so I can work on it.
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November 3, 2024 at 1:54 PM #19827DattoParticipant
An advantage to having only one rally event is it leaves more track idle time for scenic work to continue.
Group C is more a source of frustration than enjoyment for me, so I won’t miss it.
I am looking for a group 5 car as well. And I thought the Moslers were ugly!
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November 3, 2024 at 1:57 PM #19828DattoParticipant
I guess the major decisions left with regards to 2025 series are scheduling, race managers, and rules.
I volunteer to be race manager for Targa Florio, and I nominate Randy to be race manager for th Revoslot SCCA B Sedan (Group 2)
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November 3, 2024 at 2:10 PM #19829Radial TAParticipant
I voted for the top 4 of the top six. I own some Targa Florio 1966-1969 cars without 3D chassis. So I am set with buying a Revoslot Toyota GT-1. I thought the vote was the decision maker. Am I wrong?
We had a discussion at the October meeting that we could skip the Group C class this year and bring it back in 2026, so I was not surprised it did not make the top 6.
I like the 70-73 Targa Florio cars better, but can wait a year. I would like two rally races, but I do not want to sacrifice one of the chosen classes except the Toyota GT. We can run the 66-69 rally series twice, for 7 classes, late in 2025 to let scenic work go forward.
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November 6, 2024 at 1:32 PM #19831DattoParticipant
With the Racer/Sideways GRP 5, I am not seeing any new cars with an inline configuration, only angle winder. Only angle winder motor pods as well. That being the case, will the series be open to angle winder? Some of us don’t have cars yet, and some of us (ahem) Ordered a car and did not find out until looking underneath.
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November 7, 2024 at 1:53 PM #19833KimParticipant
I hope we will allow angle winder configuration. I have the BMW 320 Fruit of the Loom livery I want to run, and it is an angle winder.
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