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November 9, 2022 at 4:29 PM #18411porsche917Moderator
Please post any notes or questions you have about the BRM Group 2 series.
Please post information and pics of the car you plan on running in this event.
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November 9, 2022 at 5:36 PM #18413Radial TAParticipant
BMW 91 Kleber Le Mans for Radial TA . Kleber was the BFGoodrich French affiliate in the day.
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November 13, 2022 at 2:46 PM #18433porsche917Moderator
I will be running the Ford Capri RS2600 from the 1973 Nurburgring 6 hour race. The car was driven by K. Fritzinger (D) and H. Heyer (D).
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November 13, 2022 at 6:02 PM #18438BellatorKeymaster
Really struggling with the Alfa/BWM decision. Love them both. Will have to be a surprise. 😉
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November 14, 2022 at 12:12 PM #18442Radial TAParticipant
(un) BOX
I like the Alfas but they are on pre-order and I could not stand to wait when this car with the lovely striping was available. I think we should wait for the next batch of cars.
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November 20, 2022 at 12:47 PM #18484BellatorKeymaster
There was a lot of discussion at the club meeting on Nov 19 regarding the difference in the Group 2 BMW’s available from BRM. The three pictures below should make it clear. The differences are largely in fender flares vs bulged fenders and the front air dams. Also, the LM version appears with an extra set of headlights mounted in one photo. I don’t remember seeing those on Randy’s, but maybe they are in the box.
It is worth noting that if you are looking at the white kits on BRM’s web site, the photos are wrong. The DRM and LM types are reversed.
I will be entering an Art Car version of one of these. Most likely the Type A.
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November 20, 2022 at 3:59 PM #18487DattoParticipant
Thanks to the understanding of you guys, I will be entering the # 81 Zender Scirocco
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November 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM #18490Radial TAParticipant
Follow up on the Saturday comparison of Russ’s Alfa and my BMW, maybe I will be lobbying for required minimum weight of the cars. My car seems to be way heavier, but prettier. Welcome Scirocco. If all else fails the shortage of Alfas might be filled by race series time.
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November 20, 2022 at 7:19 PM #18495chapracer65Participant
I will probably run one of these Alfas. I just ordered them.
My bad. I was doing an eBay search for BRM Alfa in 1:32 scale and there was a seller with a twin pack of Alfas, a red one and a yellow one. I thought that would give me a couple of options and I went ahead and ordered it before checking the item more closely. It was a twin pack of Revoslot Alfas. So……I guess I will run one of them on the rally track.
Russell
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November 27, 2022 at 5:07 PM #18512BellatorKeymaster
Hmm… what do we have here?
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November 28, 2022 at 12:09 PM #18515BarkingSpyderParticipant
# 81 Zender Scirocco
Nice looking car Marc!
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November 30, 2022 at 8:16 PM #18523porsche917Moderator
Brian – I love the possibilities. Can’t wait to see it finished.
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April 7, 2023 at 11:55 PM #18890Radial TAParticipant
UN BOX BOX BOX! (with a German accent)
I finally tried the BMW 91 Kleber Le Mans on my power strip and it was noisy. After a few hours I stopped it and later opened it up. On the track it was a 5.5 second mess. The front axle assemblies were fully tight, so I loosened them and lubed the bearing surfaces. They are cambered axle holders. Down to 4.5 seconds and with some practice 4.3. I am tempted to slap a BMW sticker on the chassis and run in the prototype class of Le Mans. The sedan is slowing it down, specifically where the front tires rub the fenders.
The Lexan rattles so I dabbed some Shoo Goo on the edges and that helped.
For some reason other than lead trigger finger it de-slots randomly in the button turn blue lane. Maybe I am driving randomly trying to find the braking point and intensity. Or is it torquing itself out of the turn? The spring loaded guide might be “wrong”. No weight added. No front auxiliary driving lights added. HMMMMMM.
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April 11, 2023 at 2:03 PM #18909porsche917Moderator
Randy – Happy to hear you were able to get your times down. I will say these cars like to be as low to the track as possible. I would remove the spring from the guide and see how low you can get the front of the car so the entire guide, with new thin braid, can get in the slot. As Chubby Checkers says “How low can you go?”
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June 19, 2023 at 2:06 PM #19091Radial TAParticipant
Did we decide to do a bulk order of urethane tires? Count me in if so.
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June 19, 2023 at 10:34 PM #19093porsche917Moderator
All,
Due to the lack of durability in the stock BRM rear tires, the rules have been updated with a change to a required spec tire – Paul Gage, urethane, shore 20, part #XPG-21125LMDF. These tires are available from Slot Car Corner.
These tires will need to be glued to the rims, trued, and have their edges rounded to work well. These tires will not have the same level of grip as the stock tires but they will last significantly longer and be much easier to true.
The rules have been updated to reflect this change.
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June 24, 2023 at 7:57 AM #19100chapracer65Participant
Many thanks to Brian and Marty for updating the race rules about these tires.
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June 25, 2023 at 2:24 PM #19109DattoParticipant
A little late getting the memo. Hope my PG tires arrive in time.
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June 27, 2023 at 11:40 AM #19112MelParticipant
I ordered the Kadett white kit from 132slotcar with plenty of time for it to ship early last week, but it still hasn’t shipped and I have received no responses to my inquiries. I’d heard this was an issue with them sometimes, but I had already done a couple orders with them and they were shipped immediately with no issues. Anyway, fingers crossed that a miracle happens! I am probably going to do another hydro-dip on this one. Stock pic for reference.
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June 28, 2023 at 5:13 PM #19119BellatorKeymaster
Teaser…
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June 30, 2023 at 11:21 PM #19129MelParticipant
I got my white kit in today but just discovered Slot Car Corner sent me the wrong tires. They have the correct tires listed on the invoice, but those are not the ones they sent. Been scrambling to get this white kit built and then to discover that… what a bummer.
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July 17, 2023 at 3:18 PM #19146MelParticipant
A tire truing question for these “bigguns”: is it a general rule of thumb to have the front of the car such that tires should only touch when cornering or do we want those front tires making contact with the track at all times with these bigger cars? Without the adjustable axle height, I decided to true my front tires a little more today and have that front riding like a Group C car. But now I am feeling like maybe I should have followed Russel’s lead with the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” philosophy. He said he didn’t anything to his car since last race and still smoked all of us with a 6 lap lead between him and 2nd.
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July 20, 2023 at 7:55 AM #19147porsche917Moderator
Mel,
I generally like to have the front tires just touch the track to help reduce some of the drag on the guide just a little bit. It’s a fine balance. If you have the tires riding up and all the pressure on the guide you might be slightly slower because of the friction/drag.
I agree with Russell’s statement – If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Many a slot car racer has fallen victim to messing with their car too much and watching the performance go backwards.
Best of luck with it!
Marty
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