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  • #15897
    Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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      FORMULA STEERING WHEELS
      Scalextric has “Detail Parts” and “Accessory Packs” for $3usd that contain a F1 style wheel with painted buttons (incl in the pack are a drivers head and mirrors). Electric Dreams have about 6 packs, PSR has about a dozen. They match Scaley modern F1 liveries, so you should find one with a color compatible with your car.
      P/Ns include: W8450 W8693 W8739 W8848 W9048 W9137 W9361 W9531 W9532 W9714 W9715
      Scalextric F1 Steering Wheel

      Carrera F1 Bodies have a more accurate Square Steering Wheel:
      These are not painted and are not offered in repair part kits; they have to be harvested from old bodies. Some are on shafts
        Others have small 90deg hook. You have to pop out the driver/seat partially to pop out the wheel assembly.

      Carerra F! Steering Wheel with hook

      "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
      Sammy with Montrose

      #15939
      Avatar photoDatto
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        Rule revision needed for mandatory sidewinder arrangement,and
        “ Wheel/tire must not protrude outside of the body when viewed from above, no exceptions – this includes axle float.”

        Realize this is copied/pasted.

        Marc T

        "Enjoy every sandwich"
        -Warren Zevon

        #15943
        Avatar photoStabnSteer
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          I found that this made me laugh heartily since the wheels are automatically outside of the body. But I think I get what you mean…  🙂

          Given these are essentially a spec body and chassis, we should have a specific measurement of how wide things can be. Get rid of the guesswork related to eyeballing.

          --Stabn'Steer

          #15946
          Avatar photoRadial TA
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            And quit calling the fancy pattern on a tire the “thread”.  It is TREAD.

            #16051
            Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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              Rules have been updated from the rough ones cloned from 917 coupe rules – hence the body and tire rules that did not make sense.

              Note: Some rules across many of our series have been copied from other clubs that raced similar series and had rules that make sense in the UK or Australia, or for sponge tires (e.g. oil soaking) or legacy cars (e.g. wires controlling front axle height) or 1-24 (e.g. guide cannot be visible beyond the splitter).
              Over the years some weird rules have been weeded out but others linger – LOL

              "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
              Sammy with Montrose

              #16052
              Avatar photoDatto
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                Indycals has a nice range for F1 liveries of the period. I’m sure they can be made to work.

                Indycals F1

                Mark’s idea about an IM driver with decent wheel in intriguing. Will be looking into that.

                Marc t.

                "Enjoy every sandwich"
                -Warren Zevon

                #16053
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                  I absolutely love the work Marc does with Immense Miniatures but didn’t see any modern-ish F1 drivers heads in his line up.  I have already purchased a driver head replacement for my NSR F1 car from Electric Dreams.  They carry a line called Interlagos Miniatures that produces pre-painted period correct F1 and Indy helmets that work great on the NSR F1 cars.  Worth checking out to improve the look of your car.

                  #16061
                  Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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                    ELECTRIC DREAMS HAS DECALS FOR THE NSR F1-86/89
                    Atalaya Decals ADF119 NSR Formula 86/89, Rothmans (ADF119) = $12.99
                    Atalaya Decals ADF120 McLaren Marlboro, Keke Rosberg (ADF120) = $12.99
                    Atalaya Decals ADL0802 Red Bull = $7.99

                    (water slides)
                    https://www.electricdreams.com/Shop/?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=129

                    "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                    Sammy with Montrose

                    #16067
                    Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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                      HELMETS Page
                      https://www.electricdreams.com/Shop/slot-car-parts-c-3/interlagos-miniatures-c-3_1768/

                      "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                      Sammy with Montrose

                      #16335
                      Avatar photoDatto
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                        I ordered a set of decals purpose built for the NSR F1 86-89 cars from LEB Hobbies. They almost fit on the test car. Had a devil of a time getting them to conform, but this may because my setting solution is old.

                        BTW, Mission Models paint takes some getting used to, but I think I may be able to work with them.

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                        "Enjoy every sandwich"
                        -Warren Zevon

                        #16338
                        Avatar photoDatto
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                          So, I’m calling dibs on #6 🙂

                          "Enjoy every sandwich"
                          -Warren Zevon

                          #16533
                          Avatar photoRadial TA
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                            My decals arrived from England and the numbers are 3 or 4 not the 6 and 7 originally indicated.  So I want my number to be either 3 or 4 to allow the single digit number on the nose.  Anyone already using 3 or 4?

                            #16662
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                              POLICAR F1 Monoposto Trivia
                              I posted a detailed analysis of the Policar here: 15799
                              I recently got the Green Benetton livery from Kings. I will post a “unboxing” review soon.

                              To find other information on these cars:
                              Unboxing and Basics – Home Racing World   ;   Cincy Slots

                              Axle Tuning (Dave Kennedy)

                              "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                              Sammy with Montrose

                              #16670
                              Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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                                Dave is Series Manager for F1 – but for this year, we are NOT planning to race the Policars against the NSR F1 86/89s.

                                "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                                Sammy with Montrose

                                #16688
                                Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
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                                  Simple Solution to excessive NSR Crown Channel and Pinon Wear (paraphrased from Russell’s email)

                                  The OEM brass axle spacers on the outside of the motor pod bushings reduce movement of the crown gear “landing” or “channel” for the Motor shaft.  With the spacers against the bushings on one side and the wheel on the other, the axle has very little side to side play. The crown can then be set-screwed in the proper location for best gear mesh.
                                  Additionally: you can trim the Motor Shaft to prevent Any contact with the channel on the crown.
                                  ALTERNATELY:  “Axle Stop-Collars” like the one below the chassis in this picture, can be used on both sides instead of the brass spacers. The effect is the same, except the Stop-Collars must be carefully adjusted with an allen wrench to prevent too much friction with the bushings.

                                  Spacers and Collars

                                  // JOHNS ISSUE REPORT //
                                  After having major wear issues with the NSR aluminum-collar crown gear last week in practice, I installed a NSR crown gear with Brass collar. One thing I see is that the Valley-depth of the NSR crown gears (alloy or brass) forces the motor shaft against the left flange of the crown. That’s why the aluminum crown was so worn even with lots of grease. After carefully moving the pinion to allow clearance, it appears to work ok after about 45 minutes on the test roller. The brass NSR crown gear shows signs of gear teeth slightly binding as it did with the aluminum gear. Are other racers having the same issues with your NSR F1 gears?

                                  I also tried a Slot.IT Brass-collar crown which is only .001 larger in axle diameter than the NSR. I ran the Slot.IT crown gear on the roller for 30 minutes at 4 volts. The fit and mesh seem far better than the NSR. See no vibration or out of round issues with the Slot.it gear.
                                  I will put it on track next week. If it works, I would like to Propose the rule allow Slot.IT crowns.
                                  I want the F1 series to be successful.

                                  Lotus Jr.
                                  ///

                                  Shaft rubbing channel

                                  "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                                  Sammy with Montrose

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