2019 Series talk

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  • #12891
    Austin Slot Car Club LogoRace Control
    Keymaster

      OK everyone, it’s the time of the year again to discuss what series we want to run next year.  I’ll again compile the series and get out a survey next month for us to vote on and then further discuss in the annual meeting in October.

      Couple of guidelines this year for the suggestions:

      • Make sure you come with at least a framework of rules for the series.
      • Look at the cars available
      • Buy a car and run it first

      This is to eliminate some issues we had this year.

      Keep in mind, Group C will still be run and some kind of series on the rally track.  This leaves 4 series to determine.

      Thanks!

      -Shawn

      #12897
      Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
      Participant

        Look at the Cars Available = a) find what models are available from b) what vendors and c) what are the price ranges. Naturally this applies to any allowed parts upgrades, esp. tires.

        Run It First = we need you to be able to speak to your actual experience running and tuning the car. It would Also be great if you let a few other members try out the car(s).

        "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
        Sammy with Montrose

        #12942
        Avatar photoporsche917
        Keymaster

          The list of my proposed options are below.

          RALLY
          Targa Florio 1970 Limited
          NSR Porsche 908/3 Limited
          Fly 908/3 with CG Slots chassis Limited
          Group B 1982-1986 Unlimited
          RACE
          Slot It – Group C
          BRM 1/24 Trans Am Spec
          BRM Revo Slot Spec
          BRM 1/24 Porsche 917/Ferrair 512 Spec
          Can Am 1970-1975 Limited – Slot It spec
          Slot It
          1995-1996 Global GT Championship- Fly cars w/Oilfer 3D Chassis
          Dodge Viper GTS-R
          Lister Storm
          Marcos LM600
          911 GT1 ’97
          Venturi 600LM
          1970 Le Mans Fly w/CG Slots Chassis
          Porsche 917 Limited
          Ferrari 512S Limited
          Lola T70 MkIII Limited
          Ford GT40 Limited
          Porsche 908 Limited
          Scalextric BMW E30 w/PCS chassis Limited
          OR
          Fly BMW E30 with 3D chassis with tons of body options
          Scalextric BMW E30 M3 No.56 Bathurst 1000 1988
          Ref : C3929
          Scalextric BMW E30 M3 DTM 1988 Jagermeister
          Ref : C3899
          Scalextric BMW M3 E30 BTCC 1991 Will Hoy
          Ref : C3866
          Scalextric BMW M3 E30 No.36 Tic Tac
          Ref : C3865
          Scalextric 60th Anniversary Collection – 1990s
          Ref : C3829A
          Scalextric Autograph Series BMW E30 M3 BTCC Mobil 1 Steve Soper
          Ref : C3782AE
          Scalextric BMW E30 M3 BTCC Mobil 1
          Ref : C3782
          SuperSlot BMW E30 M3 No.3 JPS
          Ref : H3757
          Scalextric BTCC BMW E30 M3 Demon Tweeks
          Ref : C3739
          Scalextric Ford Sierra RS500 & BMW E30 Twinpack
          Ref : C3693A
          Slot It – DTM Limited
          Alfa Romeo
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI No.19 Silverstone 1996
          Ref : SICA45A
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI No.26 Nurburgring 1994
          Ref : SICA35D
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti No.27 Jagermeister
          Ref : SICA35B
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti No.7 DTM 1993
          Ref : SICA35A
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI UKSCF
          Ref : SISC35A
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI No.8 Avus Ring 1995
          Ref : SICA40A
          Slot.it Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI UKSCF 2018
          Ref : SISC35ab
          Opel Calibra
          Slot.it Opel Calibra V6 No.2 Avus Ring 1995
          Ref : SICA36C
          Slot.it Opel Calibra V6 No.17 1st Norisring ITC 1996
          Ref : SICA36B
          Slot.it Opel Calibra V6 No.9 DTM/ITC 1995
          Ref : SICA36a
          #12943
          Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
          Participant

            Daaaahhhhmmm … thats a few years worth Marty!  Thanks – lots to think about : )

            "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
            Sammy with Montrose

            #12955
            Avatar photoLotus jr.
            Participant

              I am lobbying for a Slot.it McLaren M8 D/E class.  They are sub 4 second capable near stock.   Specs: Motor: stock 23k.  Tires: Slot.it F30s.  Gearing : Open  Voltage: 11v.   Sidewinder configuration.   Handling is excellent.   In testing, car has proved to be durable with little tire wear.   5 models built plus white kit.

              Thanks,

              John (Lotus Jr. )

               

              #12958
              Avatar photoLotus jr.
              Participant

                All Slot.it McLaren M8s made are currently available from Electric Dreams at reasonable prices.  These are really fun to drive.

                John B

                https://www.electricdreams.com/Shop/slot-cars-c-168/slotit-slot-cars-c-168_9/slot-it-mclaren-canam-cars-c-168_9_1212/

                #12959
                Avatar photoLotus jr.
                Participant

                  I am also lobbying that we support Kings by making an effort to have one class that we order the cars from them,  as we did with the Scalextric British Touring Cars.  They sell Scalextric,  Slot.it and BRM.

                  Thanks,

                  John B

                  #12976
                  Avatar photoRadial TA
                  Participant

                    Are the Slot.it McLarens competitive against the Thunderslot Lolas?  Could they made competitive with gearing choices?  Let’s race this month after a regular race.

                    #12978
                    Austin Slot Car Club LogoRace Control
                    Keymaster

                      Randy,

                      I’m going to say no as I’ve never gotten a Slot.it to run 3.6s.  I’m thinking the Thunderslot would own the Slot.it in that series.

                      #12980
                      Avatar photoRadial TA
                      Participant

                        I would like:

                        1) RevoSlot with slot.it rear bearings and 3/32 axles, gears, wheels and tires.  This may also impact the front bearing, axle, wheel, tire change.  Tires may need testing, but it should be easy to pick.  I would not pick a Marcos, but am OK with it if it is comparable to the Porsches.

                        2) Slot.it McLaren M8A stock except maybe tires.

                        3) ScaleAuto 1/24 GT we have just been running.

                        4a)  TransAm Scalextric 1/32 with 3D chassis, and running gear.  I have a ’70 Camaro running good, and a 3D chassis to build a 1970 Mustang.  The stock rear track width is a few mm wider for the Camaro, but I will be able to check the 3D chassis conversions before October and we can test drive them.

                        4b) If not TransAm I like the suggestion Marty made that we run Scalextric BMW E30 M3’s with 3D chassis and running gear.  I especially like the Ref. C3782 Mobil 1 in honor of my late father-in-law who was the Mobil oil distributor for Pomona in the early Mobil 1 days.

                        5) Rally Targa Florio as suggested by Marty with Fly bodies on 3D chassis.  I have an eligible Fly car from way back to convert.

                        6) 1970 LeMans with Fly bodies on 3D chassis.  I have 2 eligible cars to convert.

                        7) ThunderSlot Lolas and McLarens if comparable.  Is anyone testing the McLaren M6A?

                        8) Group 5 again with some control on unobtainium parts.

                        9) Group C again.

                        10) Maybe some other ideas we see between now and October.

                        #13009
                        Avatar photochapracer65
                        Participant

                          My only proposal for a series next year is for Thunderslots.  The rules would remain the same and new Thunderslot cars would be evaluated and allowed if they are comparable.  It would be great to get some cars other than the Lolas.  Given the parity with the Thunderslot cars my preference would be to keep it a Thunderslot-only series.

                          #13012
                          Avatar photoRadial TA
                          Participant

                            The Alfa Romeo Slot.it cars listed mostly have 35 in the serial number except for the first one the has 45.  Reading the notes, the 45 is a new version with new features, some slightly different dimensions and a 21,000 rpm motor which is different.  Are the differences small enough to leave all of them competitive?

                            #13013
                            Avatar photoRadial TA
                            Participant

                              I have put the Scalextric 1970 Mustang together with a 3D chassis as a sidewinder.  The 70 Camaro on the 3D chassis as a sidewinder is about 3 mm wider at the real wheels than the Mustang fenders.  The main problem is the sidewinder gear hub and slot.it wheel are too wide for the Mustang fenders.

                              Both cars could be assembled as inline which would allow the Camaro to run with tires well within the fenders and equal to the Mustang inline.  Tests completed showed that the inline pod gives ability to set rear track width the same on Mustangs and Camaros.  Can also use hubless wheels to get as close to the chassis as possible.

                              The inline pod will require cutting the bottom of the cockpit off to clear the motor.

                              I am going to stop testing here until we decide if this will be a 2019 series.

                              #13014
                              Avatar photoBarkingSpyder
                              Participant

                                For 2019
                                CanAm-McLaren [Spec]-I’ve got a virgin M8D (from Kings) I’m itching to use!
                                Rally – Targa Florio 1970 [Open], or Porsche 908 [Spec]
                                LeMans [Open]-or- Slot.It DTM [Spec] – both sound fun.
                                1/24 – BRM TransAm; (or if we do 1/32 TA, BRM 917/F512)
                                Econo-F1 – Scaley Hi-Impact Formula with FF motor upgrade; or PoliCar – PCAR02 Lotus 72B
                                1/32 TransAm [Open]- Lets be realistic (but not historically scale-correct) this time and allow F30s and 3D-Chassis; don’t waste time on Dawgs (don’t list 15 cars, when only 3 are actually competitive)

                                For 2020+
                                ScaleAuto 1/24 GT – Would prefer saving SAs for races in Pflugerville.
                                Revo and ThunderSlot – both great series, but maybe wait until more bodies are available and tested. 2020 or 2021 perhaps (e.g. we can buy them in 2019 but race in 2020)
                                Group-V – we’ve ran at least twice; perhaps give some one-time series a chance to re-cycle?

                                *Reminder* (a) you do not need to list GP-C (b) let’s avoid ShotGunning every single series we have ever done, or (c) or shotgun a dozen new cars and brands -without leaving any room for recycling series and cars we have *already* spent lots of Time and Money tuning. (d) Rather than repeat 2018 series, lets consider recycling a race from 2016 or earlier. We had fun this year – but let’s consider back-logging the brand/models from 2018 to reruns in 2020+.

                                "... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
                                Sammy with Montrose

                                #13050
                                Avatar photoRadial TA
                                Participant

                                  I have discovered that I would have to modify the 3D chassis rear rail next to the pod to make room for the inline motor set up on the Mustang.  That would still leave the Mustang fenders narrower, and with extensive mods to use tires that same width as the 70 Camaro.  Therefor, after some consultations with other members I am dropping the full Trans Am suggestion.

                                  We could do a 70 Camaro class on 3D Olifer chassis with many restrictions.

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