ASCC Annual Planning for 2021

[BarkingSpyder]

This is the head thread for posting preferences for the series for 2021.
The basic set of candidates are:
–Slot It Group-C
–Racer Group-5
–RevoSlot GT1 (new cars: Toyota GT1, Porsche GT1, Ferrari 333, Ferrari F40)
–BRM 1/24 Group-C
–Thunderslot

**These are not the only choices; you may propose your own series.

"... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with Montrose

[Datto]

TWO group C? Can’t we mix it up a bit? There are some interesting open-wheel possibilities we can look into.

"Enjoy every sandwich"
-Warren Zevon

[porsche917]

To the open wheel racing – there are NSR F1 cars and the soon to be released Policar modern F1 cars.  I could see us running the NSR cars.  They have been out for a while, parts are available and they come in enough colors and liveries to work for everyone.  Spec Series

BRM Trans Am cars.  These are basically overgrown Revoslot cars that are fun to drive and perform well. – Spec Series

BRM/TTS mini 1/24 scale cars – these include the Alfas, Ford Escorts, Mini’s, Opels and soon to have a Autobianchi A112 Abarth coming in the next few months.  Spec Series

Scalextric or Fly BMW E30 touring car series with Shapeways 3D chassis – Semi-Spec Series

Rally Track – Targa 1969-1973 – Open Series

Rally Track – Group B unlimited.  Any car in Group B from 1983-1986 with unlimited modifications.  Open Series

The difference between Spec Series and Open Series is the amount of modifications that can be made to the car.  Spec Series is just that – a spec car with stock or limited modifications that can be performed.  An Open Series allows for more (not unlimited) amount of changes to improve the performance of the car.  These series allow the builder to be creative and discover new ways to improve a cars performance.  These series can be slightly more expensive due to the expense in additional high-performance parts.

 

 

 

[Radial TA]

I like any of these legacy classes with one additional detail:

Porsche and other rally cars that did not run in 2020</span>

Slot It Group-C

–Racer Group-5 if I can get a BMW

RevoSlot GT1 (new cars: Toyota GT1, Porsche GT1, Ferrari 333, Ferrari F40)

BRM 1/24 Group-C

Thunderslot Lolas, McLarens, Elvas and if possible Chaparrals

I am looking at the new classes mentioned like NSR F1, and a sedan class, with consultation among club members.  I would still like a class for an NSR Corvette.

 

[BarkingSpyder]

SPYDER WEB of 2021 Candidate Series:
Q1 Slot.IT McLaren vs. Group-C //lets try something new for Q1
Q2 Racer Group-5 //it has been awhile
H1 BRM 1/24 Group-C //let’s finish what we started in 2019
H2 Targa Florio Rally //let’s finish what we started in 2019 (2019-series-nsr-porsche-908-3-rally)
Q3 NSR F1 //only new car I plan to spend money on.
Q4 Trans-Am or Gumball Fun Series //lets try something new!?!?

Guiding Criteria:
– We talk alot about “controlling costs”; let’s actually do it and re-cycle series.
– Not every series needs to be a quest for a new ET and Lap record. This is supposed to be fun (so I heard) not a mirror of actual pro racing and their spending “drag-races”.
– Let’s complete what we only started in 2019.
– Sure I love Revoslot and Thunderslot also, but 3 years in a row? we need a break for other Options!

"... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with Montrose

[Radial TA]

If we discuss and approve the NSR F1 88/89 cars, I would like to modify the paint rule to say the body is not required to be painted, but must be decorated and clear coated.  I have even settled on a Ford/Haas decal set on red car or a BFGoodrich like my groupf c busby BFG car.  I am still not saying I want this car and 4 other new ones, but this one would be ok.

[BarkingSpyder]

Just an FYI, our planning meeting was bumped from Nov 14 since too many people were not available. Look for a new TBD date, possibly in early December.

"... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with Montrose

[chapracer65]

At the Zoom meeting today, Marc, John, and I discussed race classes for next year.  It would seem that the way we are going we will be doing proxy races for a while.  We thought starting with Group C as usual would be a good idea.

The NSR Formula 1 racers look like a good prospect.  The one David had drove well and the front end looks fairly sturdy.  The modern Policar Formula 1 is an unknown and we would need to test it out to try it.

The NSR Porsche 908 was also discussed; we only got to run one race with it last year.  It would be a good candidate to run on both tracks to  give some variety.

We talked about the variety of cars that the Tourist Trophy produced and thought it would be a fun builder series, perhaps with car track limits or some way to reduce  the dominance of the Racer 250LM.

A Group 5 Racer Sideways series was brought up, as well as a Slot.it GT40 series.

I had forgotten about the BRM/TTS small 1/24 cars.  My Alfa is a great looking car and the smaller size of these metal chassis cars should make good running cars.

I also like  the BRM 1/24 Trans Am cars.

Also requiring some  thought would be the order in which we would run any proposed series, considering that, at least to start the year, we would continue with proxy races, so for early series choices, it might be good to consider classes in which we would not mind some one else driving our cars.  For a car that we would really want to drive ourselves, later in the year would be better.

Russell

[Radial TA]

I agree with an important point Russell notes, that some 2021 classes will be cars I want to personally drive if it is a car we already have or a new car.  I would especially like to drive my Porsche 908 on the rally track and I enjoyed it on the big track when we tested cars on Thursday evening.  The NSR/Policar F1 and BRM 1/24 scales would also be ones I would want to drive myself if we choose those.  I have an NSR f1 coming already, but I would not buy the 1/24 BRM’s if I could not drive them.  I would be glad to let proxies drive my Racer Capri and my slot it group c cars.  I could also agree to let a proxy drive my 1/24 scale Mercedes that we only ran early 2020.

So I am glad the November 21 Zoom meeting brought up the point about what I would like to drive my self, so we should put those cars late in 2012.  If my personal doctors show the vaccination is effective, I will take it and gratefully rejoin the in person racing next year.  Stay safe everybody.

[chapracer65]

I wanted to add a couple of comments about possible series.  One is that I think we should take a break from running Thunderslot.  That has been one of my favorite series and the cars have been very fast right out of the box, but I think we should run other series this year.

As I said in my above post, I had forgotten about the BRM mini 1/24 cars.  There are a lot of models and liveries available and these cars should be a lot of fun to drive.  They are a great size and have an attractive (to me anyway) chunky appearance.

I am going to leave my Alfa at HQ for everyone to look at and try out on the track, keeping in mind that it is right out of the box and I have done nothing to it.

 

Russell

 

[chapracer65]

The BRM Mini 1/24 cars come with a vast array of options, and I do not know where to get all the info online.  Parts catalogs come with the purchase of  a car, and I am posting some of the info below.  Some cars come with negative camber front wheels, some come with negative camber rear wheels, some have straight front axles, some have independent front axles, some are ball bearings, some are not.  The Alfa has independent front negative camber wheels.  The parts catalogs come with listings of all available parts; I can list those if desired.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BarkingSpyder]

CUTE. Interesting. I actually owned a SIMCA in 1970-71.
These are 1/24s? they look like adolescent Revoslots. Hopefully one day they extend the trans-am models to the 1/32 size; perhaps license their GP-c models also in 1/32 etc.

I like the independent front axles.
But I wonder why they have a ‘cambered’ (cupcake) option for the rear- it seems like there too many chances for friction (from the u-joint) and maybe not the best handling on a flat slot-car track(?)

"... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with Montrose

[chapracer65]

Although nothing is definite, it would seem that we have at least two races series for next year set:  Group C as usual and NSR F1.  There has been a lot of interest in the NSR Formula cars; six members have ordered or bought cars so far.  I think we could pre-select at least these two series, leaving four choices to be made.

There has also been good interest in finishing the NSR Porsche 908 series that we started last year.  This series would be run on both the main track and the rally track.

Other series mentioned, either in the Forum or to me, by three or more people include:

·         BRM 1/24 Group C scheduled for last year.

·         Group 5/Recer Sideways

·         Tourist Trophy (could have rule on track width or overscale cars)

Series mentioned by two or more people:

·         BRM Mini 1/24

·         RevoSlot GT1

·         Thunderslot

 

Series mentioned by one person:

·         Spec BMW E30

·         Spec Slot.it GT40

·         BRM 1/24 T/A

·         Targa Florio Rally Track

·         Group B Rally Track

·         T/A—Gumball

The sampling of comments for proposed series is fairly small.  It would be very useful to have comments from more members.  I would like to  pre-select at least two series with strong enough interest before the  annual meeting , leaving a smaller number of series to discuss during the meeting.

Russell

[BarkingSpyder]

We may need to have a outreach activity where we call and/or text each active member to obtain their comments.

"... get on your bad motor scooter and ride!"
Sammy with Montrose

[Datto]

During the Pandemic and the proxy format, would be a good time for a builder’s series like the tourist trophy. Participation is not limited to track-time, and we can share our builds on the forum, like so:

Entrants’ cars

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-Warren Zevon

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