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This is the head-thread for discussing rules, cars, testing for the 2022 Can/Am Open series.
Russ is our Series Manager.
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Sammy with MontroseHello all,
I did not notice that the Can Am option on the ballet specified 1970-1973. My preference is to allow cars representing the entire series. I think it would be interesting to see how Thunderslot Lolas and McLarens would fare against the later wide tire cars, such as an NSR Porsche 917-10. I don’t know how much members counted on only 70-73 cars when they voted for Can Am.
Russell
I agree with you Russell on the time frame. Our good ThunderSlot McLarens would not qualify even though they look right.
What are the thoughts on running this series at 12 volts? We already run the Thunderslot series at 12 volts so I don’t see us running this at anything less than 12. Thoughts?
True, but read John’s final assessment of the series regarding 12 volts.
http://austinslotcarclub.com/2019-mclaren-m8d-round-6-results/
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Sammy with MontroseConcern has been expressed about the speed of the Thunderslot cars. The Thunderslots are the fastest cars that we have run with fast laps in the 3.5 sec. range and may easily prevail in this Can-Am series. The first suggestion was to only allow cars from the 1970 to 1974 seasons. This will not work because some Lola T70 cars were still running during this period. It would seem that the only thing to do is not to allow Thunderslot cars in this Can-Am series. The Thunderslot cars do have a clear edge in lap times. The Slot.it McLarens are also quick, but not as quick at the Tslots. Marty has provided a spreadsheet comparing this year’s Thunderslot series to 2019’s Slot.it McLaren series.
Keep in mind to discount my results in this year’s Thunderslot races as my car was illegal. Also keep in mind that track conditions change and any cars and series may be faster or slower on any given day.
As the Thunderslots do seem to have a clear advantage, it does seem reasonable to exclude them from this year’s Can-Am. The last time we ran Can-Am was 2014 and best times were in the 3.8 second range, running at 11 volts, so it is reasonable to expect them to be faster now.
I would appreciate everyone’s input on this option of excluding the Thunderslot cars.
Thanks
Russell
I must say the Thunderslot cars are faster that I race at 12 volts than my McLaren that we also tried at 12 volts. I hopefully continue to improve at car prep and driving, but I have been resigned to using a Thunderslot Lola already in my garage or a new Thunderslot McLaren M6/8B. I have not made a purchase. I was measuring the Thunderslort Lolas to see if I could put the Slot.it McLaren on the chassis. If we exclude the Thunderslots I will work on my McLaren or maybe buy a Chaparral for added flavor to the race. I also like the Porsche 917/10-30. Let’s exclude the Thunderslots. Or allow Thunderslot Lolas with a large weight penalty. I hate to not see them as CanAm cars.
It would be good to have the Thunderslots run but they are so much faster. I don’t know what amount of weight you would have to add to them to keep them in check with the Slot.it’s or others. but here is what the weights look like.
Carrera CanAm slot cars – 88 grams to 92 grams
Thunderslot cars – 63 grams
Slot.it McLaren – 63 grams
I will go along with the ban on Thunderslots and rely on the Slot.It and NSR cars with rules that are “open” for mods including 3D chassis, ball bearings and pretty high rpm motors in any orientation. In other words, like the real 1:1 cars could be ever increasing performance. Just mounting a Carrera, Scalextric, Slot.it or NSR body on a Thunderslot chassis might be going too far, but maybe;). NO 1:28 scale cars.
Two Things – I wanted to confirm that the club has decided to ban Thunderslot cars from the upcoming CanAm series.
Will we be sticking strictly to the list of CanAm cars that Brian put together? If so, I don’t see any Porsche 908/3’s on the list. That could rule out this great NSR car from the series. Can you confirm if this is the case or if the 908/3 will be allowed. I know that Tony Dean raced a 908/2 but the 908/3 never ran in CanAm that I can find. Let me know as I am looking at preparing this car for the series.
Let me add – if we are not going to be allowed to use Thunderslots I think we should be allowed to use the 908/3’s from NSR. This will give members a pre-built option for a car to run. Without this many will choose to run the Slot.it McLaren and it might be boring to have a field of Slot.it McLarens and one Chaparral.
Yes, Thunderslots will not be allowed in the Can-Am series. As to the Porsche 908/3, the 908/3 is very similar to the 908/2. I don’t know if it matches up exactly, but I think it could pass as a 908/2 with alternate/fantasy livery. I better option might be an NSR Porsche 917-10K . I don’t have one of those but I believe the body is wider.
I should have the rules up soon. I was waiting on feedback on the Thunderslots before pulling the trigger.
Russell
Tony Dean won 1970 Atlanta in a 908-2 which is longer and sleeker than the 908-3 we raced on rally track. I have a 908-2 that is a FLY car from some ones collection that bought. It has a little front downforce fender piece broken, but is ok. Really does not look like 908-3. (The two drivers are now crossing the Alps in a French Mustang on the Monte Carlo Rally.)
Race cars evolved from race to race. The pictures of Porsche 908-2 I first looked at were earlier cars, which did look like the 908-3. They had slab body sides and the fender tops on the “shoulders” were flat, without the dip between the fenders of the later cars, as in the #36 car. I don’t know which versions campaigned in which Can-Am races, but my inclination is to be inclusive rather than exclusive, so I say they can run.
Russell
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